View Poll Results: Was Dorner executed or was it an unfortunate consequence?

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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I don't think we want the police killing easily or making decisions based on emotion because it makes them judge, jury and executioner. I'm not saying the police were wrong in this instance but it doesn't look good for them to use an incendiary device to burn a suspect out because, until any of us are convicted, regardless of how bad it looks were still not guilty by law.
    What it really amounts to is that it would have been better if they had shot him after he opened fire on them, and before he entered the cabin. Either way, the end result is the same, but the public would have an easier time digesting it. If someone was shooting at me, you can bet your ass I'd try my damndest to kill him.
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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    It doesn't really matter..The butcher is dead.....That is the good thing.
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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    What it really amounts to is that it would have been better if they had shot him after he opened fire on them, and before he entered the cabin. Either way, the end result is the same, but the public would have an easier time digesting it. If someone was shooting at me, you can bet your ass I'd try my damndest to kill him.
    It's not that they finally got him. Anything he did doesn't justify wrong behavior by the police force in my eyes. If someone was shooting at me I'd shoot back but I still wish for no persons death. I've seen people die up close and it's nothing like the movies it burns a hole in your soul.
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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayno View Post
    Dorner was executed just like Koresh and the dozens of women and children with him in Waco.

    What at total grotesque lie and low-life scummy comparison to the horrific actions by the federal government in murdering women and children at Waco with cyanide gas versus state and local police trying to tear gas and burn out a killer into surrendering. Your message truly is sickening to compare the two as they are exactly opposite. The police did it right with Dorner.

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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    I have not seen anyone anywhere, until now, suggest that police used the incendiary version of the tear gas delivery device with the intention of burning the guy to death. we have been told that it was used to drive him out with the stronger tear gas, and fire was a possibility, but even if the officers wanted to start the fire, the fire by no means required that the suspect be burned to death. He could have easily just exited the building and surrendered.

    He apparently chose not to go this route, and it is likely that he shot himself instead.

    Did the police kill him at all?

    I really don't think so.

    If your house catches fire, do you leave, or do you stay and shoot yourself?
    Read some articles on the internet it's all over that the police chose to use the incendiary version of teargas.
    He probably succumbed to the smoke before he realized he couldn't withstand it.
    He had a big hand in his own death by his choices, though his reasons for choosing his path will probably not come out at a trial now.
    Who benefits from that if the LAPD did screw him and the homeless man that got beat?
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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    It's not that they finally got him. Anything he did doesn't justify wrong behavior by the police force in my eyes. If someone was shooting at me I'd shoot back but I still wish for no persons death. I've seen people die up close and it's nothing like the movies it burns a hole in your soul.

    So your view is that .... a person can murder as many people as he wants to and the police shouldn't bother that person or intefere? That seems you point.

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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    It's not that they finally got him. Anything he did doesn't justify wrong behavior by the police force in my eyes. If someone was shooting at me I'd shoot back but I still wish for no persons death. I've seen people die up close and it's nothing like the movies it burns a hole in your soul.
    Yes, I've seen many people die up close, and it's not fun, and I don't wish for anyone's death in specific, but I would most definitely try to kill someone who was shooting at me. Period. My life is every bit as important as anyone else's, and I will defend it to the death, if necessary.
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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    So your view is that .... a person can murder as many people as he wants to and the police shouldn't bother that person or intefere? That seems you point.
    That's not my point at all if it takes deadly force to put someone down, then that's the way it is. But if it can be averted, even with a killer, then it should be. Or do you condone death squads for certain defenses? And does that make you any better than them?
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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    There should be a 3rd option of "Who cares? There's one less scumbag in the world".

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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Yes, I've seen many people die up close, and it's not fun, and I don't wish for anyone's death in specific, but I would most definitely try to kill someone who was shooting at me. Period. My life is every bit as important as anyone else's, and I will defend it to the death, if necessary.
    There's nothing wrong with being passionate about your life. I just don't like it when people are so eager to kill others because most likely you're going to kill an innocent eventually, and there's coming back from that one. Shooting all the bad guys in the world isn't worth one innocent.
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