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  • The UN needs to assert more authority over the world

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  • The UN needs to be abolished

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Thread: Thoughts on the UN

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    Thoughts on the UN

    After the North Korean nuclear test yesterday the UN "strongly condemned" it according to CNN. Personally this irked me because if North Korea was willing to come this far, to simply condemn them is not going to reach the goal that the UN wants. I want to know what you all think about the UN and it's workings. Please explain.
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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    It's unfortunate that the UN has no real authority. But they don't.



    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    After the North Korean nuclear test yesterday the UN "strongly condemned" it according to CNN. Personally this irked me because if North Korea was willing to come this far, to simply condemn them is not going to reach the goal that the UN wants. I want to know what you all think about the UN and it's workings. Please explain.

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    I would like for us to withdraw from it completely, along with the dues we pay. They have become little more than a mouthpiece for tin horn dictators and terrorists.
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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    The UN does need to have more authority. I believe the whole veto system in the UNSC needs to be abolished. The UN is supposed to be democratic and give every country small and large an equal voice. The UN and the couple major powers that dominate it have thrown out their charter and pretty much towarn it to pieces and that is a damn shame. The UN and the major powers that dominate it have used the UN for their interests and thier interests alone. I belive that the whole veto system needs to be thrown out and go back to the UN's Founding Charter where all countries have an equal voice and equal powers.


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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    After the North Korean nuclear test yesterday the UN "strongly condemned" it according to CNN. Personally this irked me because if North Korea was willing to come this far, to simply condemn them is not going to reach the goal that the UN wants. I want to know what you all think about the UN and it's workings. Please explain.
    Yeah, but the nations don't want to subvert their own sovereignty by giving more authority to the UN.

    i have no problem with the UN doing what it does now. Allowing nations a common forum helps keep the world more peaceful. But it's up to individual nations to decide to act.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    The essential purpose of the United Nations is to transfer money from 1st world countries to the corrupt leaders of 3rd world countries. Why are they in New York? They are there for the limousine, prostitute, expensive hotel and restaurant lifestyle. You couldn't pry those America haters out of New York with a crowbar.

    The UN also seems to be a platform for globalist loons like Clinton and Obama who envision themselves as president of the entire world.

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    The United Nations is exactly what the name implies, a voluntary organization of sovereign states. That it has weak enforcement mechanisms and weak 'powers' is completely natural. The UN is a useful mechanism for allowing states to interact with one another, for policing and developing the third world, and for creating and harmonizing peripheral and ancillary areas of international law.

    For issues of substance powers can and do choose to ignore its dictates with relative impunity and little long term repercussions. This is not a weakness of the UN it is an expected reality. The world still operates on the basis of power and concerts. However norms and international law have become very useful in constraining rogue actors and by providing pretexts for negative activity towards them. But it is worth mentioning that realistically international law and liberal norms are sustained and propagated not by the UN, which as mention is merely a mechanism, but by the liberal concert in the world that includes most of the democracies and principally the United States.

    So I voted it works more or less how it should.

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    The essential purpose of the United Nations is to transfer money from 1st world countries to the corrupt leaders of 3rd world countries. Why are they in New York? They are there for the limousine, prostitute, expensive hotel and restaurant lifestyle.

    The UN also seems to be a platform for globalist loons like Clinton and Obama who envision themselves as president of the entire world.
    They are in New York because at the time of its inception the United States was the unrivaled power and banker on the planet. Moreover we were the leader of a concert that included the bulk of free nations and Europe was wrecked.

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    The UN does need to have more authority. I believe the whole veto system in the UNSC needs to be abolished. The UN is supposed to be democratic and give every country small and large an equal voice. The UN and the couple major powers that dominate it have thrown out their charter and pretty much towarn it to pieces and that is a damn shame. The UN and the major powers that dominate it have used the UN for their interests and thier interests alone. I belive that the whole veto system needs to be thrown out and go back to the UN's Founding Charter where all countries have an equal voice and equal powers.
    Then the dictates and resolutions would have even less authority, perhaps none at all. The reason the resolutions from the UNSC carry such unique weight is because of the power system. It is a decision agreed upon by the major powers on the planet, and which acts as an incredibly powerful guide to global action. If China, the US, or Russia are suddenly at the whim of a General Assembly style UN then they will ignore its dictates as irrelevant as will most other major powers. No one cares what Ghana thinks about North Korea when it comes to compelling action.

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Then the dictates and resolutions would have even less authority, perhaps none at all. The reason the resolutions from the UNSC carry such unique weight is because of the power system. It is a decision agreed upon by the major powers on the planet, and which acts as an incredibly powerful guide to global action. If China, the US, or Russia are suddenly at the whim of a General Assembly style UN then they will ignore its dictates as irrelevant as will most other major powers. No one cares what Ghana thinks about North Korea when it comes to compelling action.
    Whole point is that it goes against literally everything the UN stands for.


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