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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I assume you meant UN for the first US...if so, I would have no problem whatsoever.

    Hell, I'd encourage it. Maybe other countries could learn by osmosis.
    Interesting and not what I would have expected.
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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Interesting and not what I would have expected.
    Why not? I don't think an independent (reasonably) international body would intentionally put our boys in harm's way - and I'm guessing most of their missions would be along the line of peacekeeping. They wouldn't openly declare war, and they wouldn't be led by anyone remotely considered despotic.

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I assume you meant UN for the first US...if so, I would have no problem whatsoever.

    Hell, I'd encourage it. Maybe other countries could learn by osmosis.
    Good afternoon, Gipper.

    Well, since we have been here since the Constitution was voted on some 200 plus years ago, osmosis clearly isn't working! Invading or droning other countries hasn't made us real popular either.

    Any other suggestions?

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    We also provide most of their funding
    In what parallel mathematical universe does 22% constitute 'most'? The US is the largest single contributor to the UN, or at least it would be if it actually paid its contribution. Often it does not.
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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good afternoon, Gipper.

    Well, since we have been here since the Constitution was voted on some 200 plus years ago, osmosis clearly isn't working! Invading or droning other countries hasn't made us real popular either.

    Any other suggestions?
    American soldiers have been unwelcomed because they represent American policy. If they were delegated to the command of the UN, I doubt they'd carry the same light as troops receiving orders issued from Washington D.C.

    Also, do you really think the United Nations would invade another country for any purpose other than liberation?

    Oh...and good afternoon.

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    In what parallel mathematical universe does 22% constitute 'most'? The US is the largest single contributor to the UN, or at least it would be if it actually paid its contribution. Often it does not.
    Good afternoon, Andrablue.

    I am math-challenged, I admit, but since there currently 192 nations in the UN, and we are contributing over a fifth of their revenue, that equals most to me. It appears that some of the other non-West 191 nations only have to pay a pittance to have their vote count the same as ours. Now I understand being "equal," but the only equality I see here is the voting right, and I think that's unfair, especially since a lot of them neither understand nor agree with our form of governance to begin with!

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    After the North Korean nuclear test yesterday the UN "strongly condemned" it according to CNN. Personally this irked me because if North Korea was willing to come this far, to simply condemn them is not going to reach the goal that the UN wants. I want to know what you all think about the UN and it's workings. Please explain.
    It is difficult for the UN to be that much better than its members...
    And it is disturbing that so many here want to see it gone....much as the conservatives were able to kill off the League of Nations..
    Will they ever learn ??

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    The essential purpose of the United Nations is to transfer money from 1st world countries to the corrupt leaders of 3rd world countries. Why are they in New York? They are there for the limousine, prostitute, expensive hotel and restaurant lifestyle. You couldn't pry those America haters out of New York with a crowbar.

    The UN also seems to be a platform for globalist loons like Clinton and Obama who envision themselves as president of the entire world.
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    Why are there some "American haters" ?

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    American soldiers have been unwelcomed because they represent American policy. If they were delegated to the command of the UN, I doubt they'd carry the same light as troops receiving orders issued from Washington D.C.

    Also, do you really think the United Nations would invade another country for any purpose other than liberation?

    Oh...and good afternoon.
    1. I seriously doubt our military would consent to being under any other command than ours. Why should we? Until recently we have been the big kid on the block.

    2. "Liberation" from one despot to another despot hasn't worked out too well for the citizens of some countries recently, either, if violent clashes and riots are any indication, so my answer would be yes, there would.

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    1. I seriously doubt our military would consent to being under any other command than ours. Why should we? Until recently we have been the big kid on the block.

    2. "Liberation" from one despot to another despot hasn't worked out too well for the citizens of some countries recently, either, if violent clashes and riots are any indication, so my answer would be yes, there would.
    They'd consent if we told them to consent. We could give them outstanding orders to obey all lawful orders issued by the UN. Are you under the assumption that they'd be corrupt with leadership? Also, I don't think America's status as a superpower means that we're immune from law, for the most part.

    I also don't think that they would eliminate a world threat and allow another to rise.

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