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  • The UN is weak and has no real authority

    5 13.89%
  • The UN needs to assert more authority over the world

    4 11.11%
  • The UN needs to be abolished

    15 41.67%
  • The UN is fine as is and is serving its purpose well

    7 19.44%
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Thread: Thoughts on the UN

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    What bliterhing idiot voted "UN is fine and serving its purpose well".

    They should be banned from any politically relevant discussion.

    The UN is crap. It's the equivalent of a kangaroo court. Nobody's afraid of it, nobody respects it.

    Period.

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Whole point is that it goes against literally everything the UN stands for.
    What the UN stands for is impossible in a world with divergent political systems, it can only work on a planet fairly uniform democratic standards. Moreover I'd argue pretty strongly that the principle powers involved in constructing the UN had a very decent understanding of the importance of enthroning the great powers of the world into unique positions within the UN, and we have some ample documentation and commentary to this effect.

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    What bliterhing idiot voted "UN is fine and serving its purpose well".

    They should be banned from any politically relevant discussion.

    The UN is crap. It's the equivalent of a kangaroo court. Nobody's afraid of it, nobody respects it.

    Period.
    I did. I think the UN is doing what its supposed to do just fine. The UN is far less important than its critics give it credit for. It's the easy angry thing to hit out at when it really does very little because it is not an independent body. It is nothing more than the mechanism for international consultation, action, and diplomacy. For what it realistically can do it does an alright job. I also have no problem ignoring its dictates and resolutions from the perspective of the United States, hypocrisy is our prerogative as the liberal hegemon.

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    If you come in looking at the UN with some puritanical notions, either left or right, it's a failure. As a forum of grey area geopolitical considerations it does its job as well as anyone can realistically imagine.

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    It's unfortunate that the UN has no real authority. But they don't.
    Thank God they have no real authority.

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I did. I think the UN is doing what its supposed to do just fine. The UN is far less important than its critics give it credit for. It's the easy angry thing to hit out at when it really does very little because it is not an independent body. It is nothing more than the mechanism for international consultation, action, and diplomacy. For what it realistically can do it does an alright job. I also have no problem ignoring its dictates and resolutions from the perspective of the United States, hypocrisy is our prerogative as the liberal hegemon.
    The UN is a Saturday Night Live skit with all of the most absurd deranged idiocy presented with a straight face. If the US was wise, she's expel the UN and force it to set up shop in Iran or Syria where they hold the same values most of the membership hold.

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Why?

    Doesn't seem that "god" has much authority either.

    The UN is supposed to be a method for resolving conflict. They aren't very effective. Why does that please you?


    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Thank God they have no real authority.

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    The UN is a Saturday Night Live skit with all of the most absurd deranged idiocy presented with a straight face. If the US was wise, she's expel the UN and force it to set up shop in Iran or Syria where they hold the same values most of the membership hold.
    The United Nations exists because It has the backing of the United States. As a founding member it is impossible to back out of our duty.

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Why?

    Doesn't seem that "god" has much authority either.

    The UN is supposed to be a method for resolving conflict. They aren't very effective. Why does that please you?
    An organization that thinks it's rational to appoint Pakistan and the Republic of Korea to it's Human Rights Council, as an example, is an organization that has no credibility and no moral authority or persuasion and is solely a social club for despots and the world's worst actors. I'm sure when a normal person leaves the building, they feel a desparate need for a shower.

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    Re: Thoughts on the UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    The United Nations exists because It has the backing of the United States. As a founding member it is impossible to back out of our duty.
    Nonsense.

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