the ones under 18 should be considered child
the ones under 14 should be considered child
the ones under 21 should be coınsidered child
the ones over 14 should be allowed to marry too
the ones under 14 or 15 shouldnt be allowed to have sex if they are child
they are not child if they have physical maturity
they need both emotional and physical maturity to have sex
it depends on individual differences
l dont care
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We've kind of gotten behind the times in some ways on this issue.
A couple centuries ago, mostly due to dietary deficiencies, puberty might not kick in until 14, 15, 16yo.
Today, thanks to a rich diet and possibly hormones used in growing meat animals, many kids are starting puberty at 10 or 11, and most have become sexually-capable adolescents by age 12 or 13... 14 at the most.
At that point they are theoretically capable of reproduction and most have a biological sex drive... that is, when they see someone attractive they can easily become sexually aroused and experience the desire to have sex.
At that point, biologically speaking, they are no longer "children", but young adults or sexually-capable adolescents.
They are capable of wanting to have sex, therefore logically they are capable of consenting to sex.
I said LOGICALLY... not legally. Please take note. Legally, the issue is whether they can give "INFORMED consent".
Personally I think the assumption that someone under 16 is incapable of informed consent is an over-generalization, and the assumption that someone over 16 CAN give well-informed consent is also an over-generalization. Some people are well-informed and capable of intelligent decision making at 14... some are poorly informed and consistently make stupid decisions at 25 (and older, to be honest).
But we have to draw the line somewhere I suppose.
I support the "Romeo and Juliet" laws that make allowance for young persons close in age having consensual sex without it being a sex crime... a 16yo boy should not be tarred with "sex offender" for life for banging his willing 15yo girlfriend. As for other age differences, I really think it ought to be considered on a case-by-case basis.
Me personally as a parent, I probably wouldn't allow a 15yo to go out with a 17yo... lotta diff in maturity levels there in most cases. It would depend on the kids, though.
It is very common for girls to date older boys and boys to date younger girls. A year diff is okay IMO, two years is pushing it until they're both over 16. (16 is the age of consent in my state).
But as far as someone older, say in their 20s, having consensual sex with a sexually mature adolescent... I think that while that is not OKAY, it is an ENTIRELY different matter from some pervert who wants to boink 10 year olds. Why? Because it involves an adolescent that is capable of WANTING sex and is sexually capable.
Many studies say that our brains are not fully developed until age 21-24, particularly the impulse-control parts. On that basis it would seem logical to raise the age of consent to 21 or even 22.
HOWEVER... if we do that we're going to create a lot of convicted sex offenders!
Surely most of us can remember being 16-20 years old, sloshing over with hormones and desires... while self-restraint during this period is admirable and preferable, we also have to "be real" and know that a lot of young people are NOT going to wait until they're 22 to have sex, and making them criminals for it is just ridiculous.
My personal opinion: we should be really harsh, I mean as in death penalty or life without parole, on anyone who sexually abuses any pre-adolescent child... but we need to recognize that once adolescence has been reached it is a very different thing and isn't really "pedophilia" anymore.
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