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  • the ones under 18 should be considered child

    27 39.71%
  • the ones under 14 should be considered child

    11 16.18%
  • the ones under 21 should be coınsidered child

    7 10.29%
  • the ones over 14 should be allowed to marry too

    4 5.88%
  • the ones under 14 or 15 shouldnt be allowed to have sex if they are child

    7 10.29%
  • they are not child if they have physical maturity

    1 1.47%
  • they need both emotional and physical maturity to have sex

    11 16.18%
  • it depends on individual differences

    14 20.59%
  • l dont care

    2 2.94%
  • others

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Thread: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Oh really? What would make you "think" that?
    HOLY CRAP! LOOK AT THAT!

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well you have to draw a line somewhere.
    I did. When you realize what is going on. To assert that you were less of a "victim" or "perp" simply because of your age is insane. Even a six year old knows that beating someone or biting someone is wrong, if not then they should be locked up until such time as they do. I "draw the line" at the affect upon the victim; you are not less dead/raped because the perp was 16.
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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    this thread is not about islam or a country.please stay on topic.....
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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I thought you were in your 40s...or at least late 30s.

    See, this kind of information is useful for making anecdotal arguments.

    Edit: And I'm sure that 21 year old women can get men. They will, of course, almost always get the wrong kind of man.
    Pot meet kettle.

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I did. When you realize what is going on. To assert that you were less of a "victim" or "perp" simply because of your age is insane. Even a six year old knows that beating someone or biting someone is wrong, if not then they should be locked up until such time as they do. I "draw the line" at the affect upon the victim; you are not less dead/raped because the perp was 16.
    This is about age of consent, not criminal rape or murder.

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    HOLY CRAP! LOOK AT THAT!

    *runs away*
    This is not surprising.

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    should a man age of 21 be charged with pedohilia and convicted of having sex with a child age of 14 15 0r 16 ?

    when should a person be considered adult ?

    my purpose in starting this thread is not to justify this action

    l just wonder why a person has to be accused of being a pedohilie although he is not sexually interested in little children

    many of the teenagers have the physical maturity to have sex and give birth although not all of them can be emotionally mature to marry and raise their babies.

    if 3 or more adults over 18 can have sex together or marry if polygamy is legalized , why is a person considered pervert pedohilie only because he had sex with a girl who is mature enough to menstruate ?

    if both of them are consent to have sex ,what is teh problem ?

    they dont seem more disturbing than polygamic lovers

    We've kind of gotten behind the times in some ways on this issue.

    A couple centuries ago, mostly due to dietary deficiencies, puberty might not kick in until 14, 15, 16yo.

    Today, thanks to a rich diet and possibly hormones used in growing meat animals, many kids are starting puberty at 10 or 11, and most have become sexually-capable adolescents by age 12 or 13... 14 at the most.

    At that point they are theoretically capable of reproduction and most have a biological sex drive... that is, when they see someone attractive they can easily become sexually aroused and experience the desire to have sex.

    At that point, biologically speaking, they are no longer "children", but young adults or sexually-capable adolescents.

    They are capable of wanting to have sex, therefore logically they are capable of consenting to sex.

    I said LOGICALLY... not legally. Please take note. Legally, the issue is whether they can give "INFORMED consent".

    Personally I think the assumption that someone under 16 is incapable of informed consent is an over-generalization, and the assumption that someone over 16 CAN give well-informed consent is also an over-generalization. Some people are well-informed and capable of intelligent decision making at 14... some are poorly informed and consistently make stupid decisions at 25 (and older, to be honest).

    But we have to draw the line somewhere I suppose.

    I support the "Romeo and Juliet" laws that make allowance for young persons close in age having consensual sex without it being a sex crime... a 16yo boy should not be tarred with "sex offender" for life for banging his willing 15yo girlfriend. As for other age differences, I really think it ought to be considered on a case-by-case basis.

    Me personally as a parent, I probably wouldn't allow a 15yo to go out with a 17yo... lotta diff in maturity levels there in most cases. It would depend on the kids, though.

    It is very common for girls to date older boys and boys to date younger girls. A year diff is okay IMO, two years is pushing it until they're both over 16. (16 is the age of consent in my state).

    But as far as someone older, say in their 20s, having consensual sex with a sexually mature adolescent... I think that while that is not OKAY, it is an ENTIRELY different matter from some pervert who wants to boink 10 year olds. Why? Because it involves an adolescent that is capable of WANTING sex and is sexually capable.

    Now, OTOH...
    Many studies say that our brains are not fully developed until age 21-24, particularly the impulse-control parts. On that basis it would seem logical to raise the age of consent to 21 or even 22.
    HOWEVER... if we do that we're going to create a lot of convicted sex offenders!

    Surely most of us can remember being 16-20 years old, sloshing over with hormones and desires... while self-restraint during this period is admirable and preferable, we also have to "be real" and know that a lot of young people are NOT going to wait until they're 22 to have sex, and making them criminals for it is just ridiculous.

    My personal opinion: we should be really harsh, I mean as in death penalty or life without parole, on anyone who sexually abuses any pre-adolescent child... but we need to recognize that once adolescence has been reached it is a very different thing and isn't really "pedophilia" anymore.

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Well let me ask you this - how many people your age do you know who married at 17/18 that are still together? My guess is probably very few, if any - unless she got knocked up.

    It was common in my grandparents' days because back then, divorce was taboo and frowned upon so you stuck with the person you married, come hell or high water, even if they turned out to be a complete waste of oxygen.

    You CAN get married at 18, just like you CAN get divorced at 20. Then you're on the market as 20 and divorced. Good luck finding someone new, especially if you got a kid out of that brief mistake.
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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    this thread is not about islam or a country.please stay on topic.....
    It may be about how different religions see this subject though..

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I did. When you realize what is going on. To assert that you were less of a "victim" or "perp" simply because of your age is insane. Even a six year old knows that beating someone or biting someone is wrong, if not then they should be locked up until such time as they do. I "draw the line" at the affect upon the victim; you are not less dead/raped because the perp was 16.
    Children are more susceptible to being manipulated, used and abused. Age of consent laws are in place to protect children from predatory adults.

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