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  • the ones under 18 should be considered child

    27 39.71%
  • the ones under 14 should be considered child

    11 16.18%
  • the ones under 21 should be coınsidered child

    7 10.29%
  • the ones over 14 should be allowed to marry too

    4 5.88%
  • the ones under 14 or 15 shouldnt be allowed to have sex if they are child

    7 10.29%
  • they are not child if they have physical maturity

    1 1.47%
  • they need both emotional and physical maturity to have sex

    11 16.18%
  • it depends on individual differences

    14 20.59%
  • l dont care

    2 2.94%
  • others

    14 20.59%
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Thread: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    I think the law should be changed to.. if person over 18 has sex with someone under 18, there would have to be at least a 3 year age difference. So in essence.. an 18 year old could not be convicted of rape if his / her partner is at least 15+ years old. Or if a 20 year old has a 17 year old partner, that should not be illegal. I don't see the point in ruining someones life over sleeping with an underage person if it is consensual and the age difference is less than 3 years.
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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    I think the law should be changed to.. if person over 18 has sex with someone under 18, there would have to be at least a 3 year age difference. So in essence.. an 18 year old could not be convicted of rape if his / her partner is at least 15+ years old. Or if a 20 year old has a 17 year old partner, that should not be illegal. I don't see the point in ruining someones life over sleeping with an underage person if it is consensual and the age difference is less than 3 years.
    That's pretty much what it is (in my state) - difference of 4 years.

    Works for me . . . though of course - the closer one gets *to* the age of consent the less of a concern it is for me.
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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Who does? People who live in countries who want to practice polygamy? Or people who live in countries that already permit polygamy?

    As far as the age-of-consent goes in countries other than the US it depends on the social-construct. In the US we are 'individualists' - we expect to meet someone, fall in love, and have a family with that person - if we want to. Of course - other cultures are this same way, it's not just a US thing.

    IN contrast: In other cultures marriage is not a 'when you meet someone and fall in love' individualist concept . . . it's a familial concern. In such a situation it's the parents who make the decisions on behalf of one or two minors involved. They make the arrangements with the other parent / family. They find a suitable family / partner for their daughter or son. Meet the family, discuss the marriage situation, and consider it - both families have to approve of each other. They may or may not be concerned with whether the two to-be-married 'love' each other . . . they at least might want them to 'like' each other. The decision isn't made on love or with the consideration of the 'maturity' of the individuals. It's made with the benefit to the family: what kind of children will they have. Will everyone benefit in some way?

    In such cultures - I imagine that if a male meets and falls in love with a female and wants to marry her - he must still go about it in the 'right' way - getting both families to talk it over, approve, and want to arrange the marriage.

    So - in some cultures age-of-consent doesn't matter when it comes to marriage (polygamy or monogamy wouldn't matter in this regard) because the parents have the final-say and make the decision. The male/female to be married do not.

    Thus - it makes sense that the female in such a situation is more likely to be underage (but not always) - because he is expected to support her and their children. To do so - generally speaking - the male must be older / employed / capable if he is to provide.

    It's all based on society norms and cultural views - and who is expected to do what.
    do you think it is collectivist here ?


    l know you are individualist but many still think abortion is wrong for instance

    to be against it is against individualism too

    l mean our criterion is not patriarchal cultures. or culturel differences..
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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    To answer the poll question - the age they start paying taxes and become contributing members of society at large.

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    according to her ,l support pedophilic marriages.interesting

    "a little " means at least 20 year gap according to her
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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    do you think it is collectivist here ?


    l know you are individualist but many still think abortion is wrong for instance

    to be against it is against individualism too

    l mean our criterion is not patriarchal cultures. or culturel differences..
    It's all complicated - that's for sure. Every culture is different and so is every nation.

    What is it in Turkey?

    Overall: I believe that because of our vast social and cultural differences there is no 'one right age of consent to apply globally' - each nation has developed it's own beliefs.

    (Medusa - I think some people respond to some of your posts on such things without realizing you're not in the US . . . and that makes them sound like idiots . . . I'm trying not to sound like an idiot - is it working )
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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    It's all complicated - that's for sure. Every culture is different and so is every nation.

    What is it in Turkey?

    Overall: I believe that because of our vast social and cultural differences there is no 'one right age of consent to apply globally' - each nation has developed it's own beliefs.

    (Medusa - I think some people respond to some of your posts on such things without realizing you're not in the US . . . and that makes them sound like idiots . . . I'm trying not to sound like an idiot - is it working )
    What makes people upset is when she attributes things to them which they never said and uses dishonesty in her arguments. That is NOT a "cultural difference."

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Who are you talking to???
    not you
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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No one is a victim in that case unless sex was forced by one upon the other. Because they are of the same age and experience level generally speaking.
    Neither is legal age of consent, and therefore no perp unless force was used. And forcible rape is a crime no matter what your age. That is the legal foundation for teen sex not being criminalized.
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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Oh, I didn't know Medusa was not in the US. But I don't think that tainted my posts on the issue. In the Netherlands the age of consent for sex is 16, I believe.
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