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  • the ones under 18 should be considered child

    27 39.71%
  • the ones under 14 should be considered child

    11 16.18%
  • the ones under 21 should be coınsidered child

    7 10.29%
  • the ones over 14 should be allowed to marry too

    4 5.88%
  • the ones under 14 or 15 shouldnt be allowed to have sex if they are child

    7 10.29%
  • they are not child if they have physical maturity

    1 1.47%
  • they need both emotional and physical maturity to have sex

    11 16.18%
  • it depends on individual differences

    14 20.59%
  • l dont care

    2 2.94%
  • others

    14 20.59%
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Thread: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Hey, I feel weird defending Carter, but most of the major policy changes attributed to Carter this days were actually introduced by Richard Nixon. Hell, he abolished the gold standard and went as far as direct price controls, Soviet-style. Yet he was elected and re-elected by a landslide of epic proportions, on the strength of older voters. Making bad choices is not limited to the young age, especially when options are limited.
    Nixon won because we are, and were, a center-right country, and the Dems ran people from the far left against him.

    And many of the social programs Libs love were actually STARTED by Nixon, despite the fact that people keep trying to label him a conservative.

    Of course, we wouldn't have NEEDED those price controls if Johnson hadn't have tried to finance his "Great Society," and the Vietnam war, by printing more money.

    Right now, Obama's done the same thing, but that money hasn't "gained velocity" yet, because the banks still are reluctant to lend.

    One of the reason Obama doesn't WANT a strong recovery is he KNOWS inflation is going to TAKE OFF when that happens...

    Of course, idiot Dems will probably blame it on a Republican when it does.

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    10 year old girl is adult ?

    l dont even support any marriage until they reach a necessary emotional maturity

    anyone can understand what l mean

    however you are the one who accuses me of lying

    nobody forced you to have sex when you were 16

    why dont you accept it was your decision or fault
    whatever
    Here you go again, going off on a tangent. If you don't knock it off, I'll just place you on ignore. I'm getting tired of your dishonest arguments, and this time I am not going to apologize. YOU are bringing it upon yourself with your ridiculous arguments that don't make any sense and your personal attacks on people who disagree with you, and then your crying it about later as if you are some kind of victim. Really, it's making me want to puke.

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You said what is the difference if it is a person a little bit older. Well, if there are no age of consent laws in place, then a 30-year-old man could most certainly have a sexual relationship and a marriage with a 10-year-old child.
    l am not talking about an age of gap like 20 years or more

    please " a little " doesnt mean " 20 years older "
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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    So what do you consider a teenager? An adult? And tell me how allowing men or women to have sex with 16 year olds would advance or help society in any way. I can give at least a dozen ways on how it can hurt a society.

    An individual does not take precedence over what is BEST for everyone else in society. Even if they are horny for young teenagers.
    Teenagers: 13-18. Adults: Anyone over 18. Now these, of course, are arbitrary lines. Maturity happens at different times for different people. Some people never mature no matter how old they get. Others, due to life's circumstances, are forced to mature very quickly. I know that I was way, waaaaay more mature at 15 than my daughter is today at almost 18. Her life has simply been a lot easier than mine. She can even get away with being a silly, carefree girl for a while longer. I wasn't so lucky.

    My country considers 16 year olds as sexually mature, but there are limitations. Until their 18th birthday the age difference between sex partners must not be greater than 3 years. I'm okay with that on principle. That said, I'm not willing to discount the reality than many girls and boys that age are mature enough for a relationship with someone who's much older. The law has to draw the line somewhere to protect the majority who won't be mature enough to handle it and I'm okay with that. What I'm trying to say is that I wouldn't go out and try and press charges if my daughter happened to date some 22 year old guy, especially if she was mature enough to handle it. On principle, I agree with the law. On a personal basis, I prefer going the case by case approach.

    Hope that made sense, I'm at work and constantly being distracted.
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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    l am not talking about an age oıf gap like 20 years or more

    please " a little " doesnt mean " 20 years older "
    Really, I don't care. YOU are being dishonest again. YOU can't decide what you think is right or wrong. You contradict yourself constantly.

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Teenagers: 13-18. Adults: Anyone over 18. Now these, of course, are arbitrary lines. Maturity happens at different times for different people. Some people never mature no matter how old they get. Others, due to life's circumstances, are forced to mature very quickly. I know that I was way, waaaaay more mature at 15 than my daughter is today at almost 18. Her life has simply been a lot easier than mine. She can even get away with being a silly, carefree girl for a while longer. I wasn't so lucky.

    My country considers 16 year olds as sexually mature, but there are limitations. Until their 18th birthday the age difference between sex partners must not be greater than 3 years. I'm okay with that on principle. That said, I'm not willing to discount the reality than many girls and boys that age are mature enough for a relationship with someone who's much older. The law has to draw the line somewhere to protect the majority who won't be mature enough to handle it and I'm okay with that. What I'm trying to say is that I wouldn't go out and try and press charges if my daughter happened to date some 22 year old guy, especially if she was mature enough to handle it. On principle, I agree with the law. On a personal basis, I prefer going the case by case approach.

    Hope that made sense, I'm at work and constantly being distracted.
    I can agree with that. It makes complete sense to me.

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Here you go again, going off on a tangent. If you don't knock it off, I'll just place you on ignore. I'm getting tired of your dishonest arguments, and this time I am not going to apologize. YOU are bringing it upon yourself with your ridiculous arguments that don't make any sense and your personal attacks on people who disagree with you, and then your crying it about later as if you are some kind of victim. Really, it's making me want to puke.
    l am dishonest okay

    please show where l claimed 10 years old girls should be allowed to marry ?


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    anybody can see who is lying

    l cant believe in you
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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Really, I don't care. YOU are being dishonest again. YOU can't decide what you think is right or wrong. You contradict yourself constantly.
    but you decide polygamy is right!!

    you mention your experiences then accuses me of attacking.

    l a m trying to point out it was your own decision

    you were consent

    l am against such perversions and you still try to claim l support pedophilic marriages

    who is dishonest????
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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Teenagers: 13-18. Adults: Anyone over 18. Now these, of course, are arbitrary lines. Maturity happens at different times for different people. Some people never mature no matter how old they get. Others, due to life's circumstances, are forced to mature very quickly. I know that I was way, waaaaay more mature at 15 than my daughter is today at almost 18. Her life has simply been a lot easier than mine. She can even get away with being a silly, carefree girl for a while longer. I wasn't so lucky.

    My country considers 16 year olds as sexually mature, but there are limitations. Until their 18th birthday the age difference between sex partners must not be greater than 3 years. I'm okay with that on principle. That said, I'm not willing to discount the reality than many girls and boys that age are mature enough for a relationship with someone who's much older. The law has to draw the line somewhere to protect the majority who won't be mature enough to handle it and I'm okay with that. What I'm trying to say is that I wouldn't go out and try and press charges if my daughter happened to date some 22 year old guy, especially if she was mature enough to handle it. On principle, I agree with the law. On a personal basis, I prefer going the case by case approach.

    Hope that made sense, I'm at work and constantly being distracted.
    according to her ,l support pedophilic marriages.interesting

    "a little " means at least 20 year gap according to her
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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    we dont allow either

    but they defend polygamy because those people are consent to do it
    Who does? People who live in countries who want to practice polygamy? Or people who live in countries that already permit polygamy?

    As far as the age-of-consent goes in countries other than the US it depends on the social-construct. In the US we are 'individualists' - we expect to meet someone, fall in love, and have a family with that person - if we want to. Of course - other cultures are this same way, it's not just a US thing.

    IN contrast: In other cultures marriage is not a 'when you meet someone and fall in love' individualist concept . . . it's a familial concern. In such a situation it's the parents who make the decisions on behalf of one or two minors involved. They make the arrangements with the other parent / family. They find a suitable family / partner for their daughter or son. Meet the family, discuss the marriage situation, and consider it - both families have to approve of each other. They may or may not be concerned with whether the two to-be-married 'love' each other . . . they at least might want them to 'like' each other. The decision isn't made on love or with the consideration of the 'maturity' of the individuals. It's made with the benefit to the family: what kind of children will they have. Will everyone benefit in some way?

    In such cultures - I imagine that if a male meets and falls in love with a female and wants to marry her - he must still go about it in the 'right' way - getting both families to talk it over, approve, and want to arrange the marriage.

    So - in some cultures age-of-consent doesn't matter when it comes to marriage (polygamy or monogamy wouldn't matter in this regard) because the parents have the final-say and make the decision. The male/female to be married do not.

    Thus - it makes sense that the female in such a situation is more likely to be underage (but not always) - because he is expected to support her and their children. To do so - generally speaking - the male must be older / employed / capable if he is to provide.

    It's all based on society norms and cultural views - and who is expected to do what.
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