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  • the ones under 18 should be considered child

    27 39.71%
  • the ones under 14 should be considered child

    11 16.18%
  • the ones under 21 should be coınsidered child

    7 10.29%
  • the ones over 14 should be allowed to marry too

    4 5.88%
  • the ones under 14 or 15 shouldnt be allowed to have sex if they are child

    7 10.29%
  • they are not child if they have physical maturity

    1 1.47%
  • they need both emotional and physical maturity to have sex

    11 16.18%
  • it depends on individual differences

    14 20.59%
  • l dont care

    2 2.94%
  • others

    14 20.59%
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Thread: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    what is its limit ?

    what is teh difference between 19 and 17 ?

    they seem consent to have sex

    what does consent mean ?
    As I said earlier - the limit is arbitrary, and never entirely satisfactory. Just like we can make perfect logical arguments against banning abortion in the very beginning of pregnancy and against allowing it at the late stages - and there is the disturbing grey area in between.

    Consent is agreement to engage in certain activities given after consideration that requires developed reasoning and ability to make informed choices. Obviously, a young child lacks both the ability and the informaton, when it comes to sex, gun ownerhip, driving, military service, voting, etc. An 18 year old is supposed to have them. Of course many still don't. But there needs to be some, however imperfect and artificial, limit. The only alternative would be some system of complicated tests. Just imagine how many people would never get to vote or have sex.

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    should a man age of 21 be charged with pedohilia and convicted of having sex with a child age of 14 15 0r 16 ?

    when should a person be considered adult ?

    my purpose in starting this thread is not to justify this action

    l just wonder why a person has to be accused of being a pedohilie although he is not sexually interested in little children

    many of the teenagers have the physical maturity to have sex and give birth although not all of them can be emotionally mature to marry and raise their babies.

    if 3 or more adults over 18 can have sex together or marry if polygamy is legalized , why is a person considered pervert pedohilie only because he had sex with a girl who is mature enough to menstruate ?

    if both of them are consent to have sex ,what is teh problem ?

    they dont seem more disturbing than polygamic lovers
    Specifically to the highlighted - girls can menstruate as early as the age of 8 or so . . . so that doesn't work as a measure of anything. It's a natural body process. Boys can ejaculate early on, too. So your body's functions don't dictate psychological maturity. it just means you're growing up and things are working properly.

    The concern about consent is whether or not they are able to ASSES the situation and determine the risks they are taking: sex come with the risk of disease and pregnancy.

    Many adults can't even understand these risks - I don't believe very many teenagers can.

    And age-of consent goes both ways: the males aren't the only ones ever considered to have done wrong by having sex with an underaged female. . .older females have sex with underaged males and is considered the same thing.

    Age of adulthood in the US is based on social expectations and requirements - in other countries it's different and I think tha'ts fine. Society dictates how children are raised and the milestones they're expected to reach . . . and so on.
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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    l am not talking about marriage

    if they are child ,dont let them have sex with their own peers either

    but if they can have sex with their own peers ,you have no right to convict someone of pedohilia just because he is a little older
    Do you not understand the concept of maturity, education and life experience. IF they are equals and doing a little consensual (the consent would be VALID in this case as both are of equivalent intelligence levels generally) sexual exploration, then one is NOT using their life experience, skills and superior knowledge to take advantage of a child.

    So you are okay with doing away with age of consent laws? Is that what you are saying? That it's okay with you if a 10-year-old child has sex with and marries a 30-year-old person?

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    l am not talking about marriage

    if they are child ,dont let them have sex with their own peers either

    but if they can have sex with their own peers ,you have no right to convict someone of pedohilia just because he is a little older

    it is their decision ..
    Well, 1, yes society does have the right to draw the line wherever society wants to draw the legal line; and
    2--this is where your logic fall apart. If someone is able to consent they are able to consent whether the other party is "just a little older" or "a creepy amount older".

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Specifically to the highlighted - girls can menstruate as early as the age of 8 or so . . . so that doesn't work as a measure of anything. It's a natural body process. Boys can ejaculate early on, too. So your body's functions don't dictate psychological maturity. it just means you're growing up and things are working properly.

    The concern about consent is whether or not they are able to ASSES the situation and determine the risks they are taking: sex come with the risk of disease and pregnancy.

    Many adults can't even understand these risks - I don't believe very many teenagers can.

    And age-of consent goes both ways: the males aren't the only ones ever considered to have done wrong by having sex with an underaged female. . .older females have sex with underaged males and is considered the same thing.

    Age of adulthood in the US is based on social expectations and requirements - in other countries it's different and I think tha'ts fine. Society dictates how children are raised and the milestones they're expected to reach . . . and so on.
    in my opinion ,menstruation isnt only one criterion for deciding if a child is adult.

    l a m not trying to say teenagers can or should have sex.

    one needs both emotional and physical maturity to do it.............
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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Well, 1, yes society does have the right to draw the line wherever society wants to draw the legal line; and
    2--this is where your logic fall apart. If someone is able to consent they are able to consent whether the other party is "just a little older" or "a creepy amount older".
    Right, there is a difference between consent and "informed" consent.

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Well, 1, yes society does have the right to draw the line wherever society wants to draw the legal line; and
    2--this is where your logic fall apart. If someone is able to consent they are able to consent whether the other party is "just a little older" or "a creepy amount older".
    as in polygamy ?
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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    as in polygamy ?
    How do you feel about gay marriage Medusa?

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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Do you not understand the concept of maturity, education and life experience. IF they are equals and doing a little consensual (the consent would be VALID in this case as both are of equivalent intelligence levels generally) sexual exploration, then one is NOT using their life experience, skills and superior knowledge to take advantage of a child.

    So you are okay with doing away with age of consent laws? Is that what you are saying? That it's okay with you if a 10-year-old child has sex with and marries a 30-year-old person?
    lets be honest
    where did l say such a disgusting thing ???????

    l have been repeating many times l am already against that kind of marriages.........

    but it was your own decision to have sex when you were 16

    thats what l mean



    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    in my opinion ,menstruation isnt only one criterion for deciding if a child is adult.

    l a m not trying to say teenagers can or should have sex.

    one needs both emotional and physical maturity to do it.............
    Last edited by Medusa; 02-10-13 at 02:25 PM.
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    Re: at what age should teenagers be considered adult ?

    It depends on the individual. 18 is arbitrary. I see no problem with a 23 year old having sex with a 17 year old, other than having sex outside of marriage. It's not pedophilia, it's a normal attraction. I can't specify an age because there is no specific age. People mature differently. There are 16 year olds that are mature enough and 25 year olds that are nowhere near mature enough.

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