View Poll Results: Should lying Mass Media be punished?

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  • Yes, but for a lack of professional journalism.

    1 8.33%
  • No, they told the truth.

    3 25.00%
  • Yes, for collusion to promote a false agenda.

    5 41.67%
  • No, they were just doing a favor to get inside access.

    0 0%
  • If they lied before, they are lying now?

    1 8.33%
  • This just represents Mass Media manipulation and is normal.

    6 50.00%
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Thread: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

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    Re: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Did you not see this part?



    That contradicts your claim of "lies".
    When somethiong is not true, it is a "lie."
    Another link. Gotta go shovel some snow, back soon.

    Colin Powell regrets U.N. speech justifying the Iraq invasion | The Raw Story

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    Re: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Did you not see this part?



    That contradicts your claim of "lies".
    When somethiong is not true, it is a "lie."
    Another link. Gotta go shovel some snow, back soon.

    Colin Powell regrets U.N. speech justifying the Iraq invasion | The Raw Story

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    Re: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    When somethiong is not true, it is a "lie."
    Another link. Gotta go shovel some snow, back soon.

    Colin Powell regrets U.N. speech justifying the Iraq invasion | The Raw Story
    That article does not contain the word 'lie' or 'lying'.

    “Of course I regret that a lot of it turned out be wrong,” he said.

    But Powell insisted a lot of his intelligence was “on point.”

    If Saddam Hussein stayed there, and his regime stayed in place, and he got out of U.N. sanctions, you would have seen weapons of mass destruction.”
    Is Powell lying?

    Looks like you did enough shovelling for one day already, why don't you take a break.

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    Re: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That article does not contain the word 'lie' or 'lying'.



    Is Powell lying?

    Looks like you did enough shovelling for one day already, why don't you take a break.
    No mobile weapons labs.
    No WMDs.
    No yellowcake from Niger.
    No missile tubes.
    Since none of these were true, then they are by definition "lies."
    Your investigative reporters are supposed to catch and reveal lies. In this case, like Judith Miller, they were part of the deception.

    Again, if it's not true, it is a lie. Not complicated. When a politician's lips move, is he lying? That is innate wisdom of the proletariot.

    It's the tenth anniversary of Iraq and if we were decieved, how do we react and make appropriate change? Is it ongoing? What do you think, or perhaps you don't?

    Hard to type, fingers are still frozen.

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    Re: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    No mobile weapons labs.
    No WMDs.
    No yellowcake from Niger.
    No missile tubes.
    Since none of these were true, then they are by definition "lies."
    Your investigative reporters are supposed to catch and reveal lies. In this case, like Judith Miller, they were part of the deception.

    Again, if it's not true, it is a lie. Not complicated. When a politician's lips move, is he lying? That is innate wisdom of the proletariot.

    It's the tenth anniversary of Iraq and if we were decieved, how do we react and make appropriate change? Is it ongoing? What do you think, or perhaps you don't?

    Hard to type, fingers are still frozen.
    Enough shovelling, you must be exausted. How about another source, this time one with something about lying.

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    Re: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

    Mesmerizing.

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    Re: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    When somethiong is not true, it is a "lie."
    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    No mobile weapons labs.
    No WMDs.
    No yellowcake from Niger.
    No missile tubes.
    Since none of these were true, then they are by definition "lies."
    Your investigative reporters are supposed to catch and reveal lies. In this case, like Judith Miller, they were part of the deception.

    Again, if it's not true, it is a lie. Not complicated. When a politician's lips move, is he lying? That is innate wisdom of the proletariot.


    No Dave, it isn't complicated.
    You are using the term loosely instead of a more accurate definition, and doing so in the attempt to cast aspersions.
    Heck, not all dictionaries carry the definition that you are attempting to use.



    In this instance, known untruths were not deliberately told to mislead/deceive, as they were believed to be true.

    No matter how pedantic you want to get, you do not call that a lie.

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    Re: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post


    No Dave, it isn't complicated.
    You are using the term loosely instead of a more accurate definition, and doing so in the attempt to cast aspersions.
    Heck, not all dictionaries carry the definition that you are attempting to use.



    In this instance, known untruths were not deliberately told to mislead/deceive, as they were believed to be true.

    No matter how pedantic you want to get, you do not call that a lie.
    "In this instance, known untruths were not deliberately told to mislead/deceive, as they were believed to be true."

    Missile tubes and yellowcake from Niger were told to mislead/deceive and were known lies. Those are just the most obvious two.

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    Re: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    "In this instance, known untruths were not deliberately told to mislead/deceive, as they were believed to be true."

    Missile tubes and yellowcake from Niger were told to mislead/deceive and were known lies. Those are just the most obvious two.




    Is that what you think?



    Interesting!

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