View Poll Results: Should lying Mass Media be punished?

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  • Yes, but for a lack of professional journalism.

    1 8.33%
  • No, they told the truth.

    3 25.00%
  • Yes, for collusion to promote a false agenda.

    5 41.67%
  • No, they were just doing a favor to get inside access.

    0 0%
  • If they lied before, they are lying now?

    1 8.33%
  • This just represents Mass Media manipulation and is normal.

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Thread: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

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    Re: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Thanks, but I'm not really interested in the poll. I'm more interested in how truther.org, claiming the US government has a massive conspiracy for years, ends up in the Polls subforum.

    You see, I'm indicting the source and the premise. Poll? Don't care.
    Some people keep their head in a bucket so bad information doesn't penetrate, but that also keeps out the good information. I think that could apply here. Perhaps that is what the Media did, don't you think? This is the tenth anniversary of the Iraq War and the lies that initiated the War are common knowledge and even admitted to by Colin Powell and others. I'm just trying to see if people understand or care or are mesmerized by the press. It's working, don't you think?

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    Re: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    ... the lies... I'm just trying to see if people understand or care or are mesmerized by the press.
    Look at your "press" (truther.org). Talk about mesmerized. If all these "lies" are so well known, you'd have a source that an elementary student could respect.

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    Re: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Look at your "press" (truther.org). Talk about mesmerized. If all these "lies" are so well known, you'd have a source that an elementary student could respect.

    All I can figure is that you are calling Colin Powell a liar for admitting that his UN Speech was hugely innacurate. That's correct. He lied! It's history, not a fable.

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    Re: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    All I can figure is that you are calling Colin Powell a liar for admitting that his UN Speech was hugely innacurate. That's correct. He lied! It's history, not a fable.
    Hugely inaccurate does not mean "a lie". Your entire conspiracy theory position is based on 'wrong equals lying'. So, if all these "lies" are so well known... why do you use a joke source?

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    Re: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Hugely inaccurate does not mean "a lie". Your entire conspiracy theory position is based on 'wrong equals lying'. So, if all these "lies" are so well known... why do you use a joke source?
    USATODAY.com - Powell calls pre-Iraq U.N. speech a 'blot' on his record

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    Re: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

    Did you not see this part?

    In the speech, Powell said he had relied on information he received at Central Intelligence Agency briefings. He said Thursday that then-director George Tenet "believed what he was giving to me was accurate."

    But, Powell said, "the intelligence system did not work well."
    That contradicts your claim of "lies".

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    Re: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    How the Iraq War Was Sold

    "The Washington Post continues to allow former members of the Bush administration, including President George W. Bush, to distort the case for going to war against Iraq in 2003 and to blame the intelligence from the Central Intelligence Agency for the decision to use force.In the “Outlook” section on Feb. 3 (“Still Fighting over a flawed case for war”), the Post cites memoirs from six key decision-makers, who are unwilling to acknowledge that the Iraq War was a deadly undertaking paved by lies and deceit.
    It was never a case of whether the White House distorted the intelligence it received on Iraq or whether the Central Intelligence Agency provided bad intelligence to the White House. In fact, both the White House and the CIA had a hand in the distortion of intelligence and both contributed to making the phony case for war to the Congress and the American people."

    Where Are They Now? The Reporters Who Got Iraq So Wrong

    "Ten years ago today, Colin Powell made the Bush administration's case for going to war against Iraq. Much of what he said about Iraq's threats to the United States was false. But the media coverage gave the opposite impression, and most of the pundits and journalists who promoted the justifications for the war paid no price for their failures."

    Is the Patriot Act necessary or an over-reaction to these lies?
    Is Homeland Security necessary?
    Is the TSA necessary?
    Did the war waste a Trillion dollars of public money?
    Does the public at large really care or want to know?
    Why do we allow the perpetuation of these myths?
    Did any particular group profit handsomely from this war?
    What were the real reasons for the war?
    As Citizens, "Do we not want to believe we've been bamboozled?"
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    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Hugely inaccurate does not mean "a lie". Your entire conspiracy theory position is based on 'wrong equals lying'. So, if all these "lies" are so well known... why do you use a joke source?

    http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500164_162-577975.

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    Re: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Page not found (big surprise). Anyway, are you going to now claim that Powell was lying about Tenet?

    You provided a source wherein Powell clearly stated that Tenet was not lying.

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    Re: Iraq War lies, past and present, and punishments?

    If you want to prove something, using bat**** insane sources is entirely the wrong way to go about it. Wrong does not mean lies, and you have shown zero evidence any one knew that they where lying. This stuff is done and over with, get over it.
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