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polygamy ? [W: 267,434]

must polygamy be legalized ?

  • yes ,because it is a matter of freedom and it must be legalized

    Votes: 27 39.7%

  • it must be legalized for only men

    Votes: 1 1.5%

  • it must be legalized for both men and women

    Votes: 14 20.6%

  • no ,it is a kind of perversion and it has nothing to do with freedom

    Votes: 7 10.3%

  • it is just a marginality which may harm society

    Votes: 4 5.9%

  • it was a tradition in many ancient cultures and defending it doesnt seem so liberalal

    Votes: 9 13.2%

  • being against it is a bigotry and l defend polygamy as an enlightened person

    Votes: 4 5.9%

  • it is better than monogamy

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • l dont care

    Votes: 16 23.5%

  • others

    Votes: 12 17.6%
  • Total voters
    68
Medusa said:

it is another issue

but can any person who has a little depression be killed because he is consent ?

l dont deny aynthing ,but you may deny the fact that there isnt any limitless freedom!!


l remember soma cannibal stories .their victims were voluntary to be eaten!!

please lets be honest............
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Okay. So we went from polygamous marriage, which is ideally about love and all that good stuff, to depression, murder and cannibals. Who's not being honest anymore here? :) You're comparing things that are so not in the same ballpark, it's getting ridiculous-
 
Medusa said:
l wonder if a child is consent to pedohilie or incest ,will we let it happen ?

maybe we can change the laws ,many of those children ! already have sex with their own peers
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This is a TERRIBLE argument against polygamist marriage.
 
Medusa said:
l wonder if a child is consent to pedohilie or incest ,will we let it happen ?

maybe we can change the laws ,many of those children ! already have sex with their own peers
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Are you suggesting that poly relationships and poly marriages are comparable to pedophilia?
 
ChrisL said:
I don't see why it would be "so" expensive. Exactly what laws would have to be changed?
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Pretty much every law relating to marriage and divorce would have to be evaluated and possibly changed.

For example, what happens if one member of a polygamous marriage wants a divorce? Do the other two (or more) stay married or does the entire marriage end?

How would the marriages even be set up? For the simplest iteration, say two women and one man, would all three spouses be married to each other, or would the two women just be each married to the man? Would the laws need to take into account both types?

How do children in a polygamous marriage work? Are all spouses the child's parent or just the biological parents?

What happens if one spouse is unable to make medical decisions? Do all other spouses have equal rights to make decisions? Is there a hierarchy? What if the other spouses disagree? How is that resolved?

I could go on longer, but hopefully this illustrates my point. I'm not saying these questions are impossible (or even hard) to answer, I'm just saying that at the moment, none of our marriage laws account for more than 2 people in a marriage, and a lot of changes would need to be made in order for them to do so. And that means money.
 
ChrisL said:
This is a TERRIBLE argument against polygamist marriage.
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why not ?

if a 14 years old girl can have sex with his 14 years old boyfriend because they are consent ?

taht girl has the right to choose whom to have sex with,according to your arguments......

incest is disgusting ?

?

where is their freedom ?

if they are consent....
 
molten_dragon said:
Pretty much every law relating to marriage and divorce would have to be evaluated and possibly changed.
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I don't see why.

For example, what happens if one member of a polygamous marriage wants a divorce? Do the other two (or more) stay married or does the entire marriage end?
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The person who wants to leave the marriage of course. It's not so confusing.

How would the marriages even be set up? For the simplest iteration, say two women and one man, would all three spouses be married to each other, or would the two women just be each married to the man? Would the laws need to take into account both types?
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I don't see what that has to do with any laws at all.

How do children in a polygamous marriage work? Are all spouses the child's parent or just the biological parents?
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Biological of course. If it is an adopted child, then those arrangements would probable be worked out during the adoption process.

What happens if one spouse is unable to make medical decisions? Do all other spouses have equal rights to make decisions? Is there a hierarchy? What if the other spouses disagree? How is that resolved?
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Of course all spouses would be entitled to the same medical decision rights as any other spouse in any other marriage.

I could go on longer, but hopefully this illustrates my point. I'm not saying these questions are impossible (or even hard) to answer, I'm just saying that at the moment, none of our marriage laws account for more than 2 people in a marriage, and a lot of changes would need to be made in order for them to do so. And that means money.
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It really doesn't. I don't see it being that big of deal or very expensive at all.
 
molten_dragon said:
Pretty much every law relating to marriage and divorce would have to be evaluated and possibly changed.

For example, what happens if one member of a polygamous marriage wants a divorce? Do the other two (or more) stay married or does the entire marriage end?

How would the marriages even be set up? For the simplest iteration, say two women and one man, would all three spouses be married to each other, or would the two women just be each married to the man? Would the laws need to take into account both types?

How do children in a polygamous marriage work? Are all spouses the child's parent or just the biological parents?

What happens if one spouse is unable to make medical decisions? Do all other spouses have equal rights to make decisions? Is there a hierarchy? What if the other spouses disagree? How is that resolved?

I could go on longer, but hopefully this illustrates my point. I'm not saying these questions are impossible (or even hard) to answer, I'm just saying that at the moment, none of our marriage laws account for more than 2 people in a marriage, and a lot of changes would need to be made in order for them to do so. And that means money.
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I actually don't think it's that complicated. If you've got 3 chicks and 2 dudes in a marital relationship, any one of them are married to any other of them equally.

In circumstances where a next-of-kin needs to be designated (one spouse is mortally injured and in the hospital, so who of the other 4 gets to make medical decisions), that can be handled with some forethought -- a medical proxy, for example.

Honestly, I think if we allowed poly people to define their own marriage arrangements via contract and then was as a society simply gave legal recognition to those arrangements, a lot of these "difficult" questions would have fairly simple solutions.
 
Arcana XV said:
Okay. So we went from polygamous marriage, which is ideally about love and all that good stuff, to depression, murder and cannibals. Who's not being honest anymore here? :) You're comparing things that are so not in the same ballpark, it's getting ridiculous-
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can anybody be killed because he is consent ?
 
Medusa said:
if they are consent :confused:

according to your interesting logic.........
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My interesting logic? That was my first post in this thread. Do try to keep up.

It's illegal for adults to have sex with children because children are legally UNABLE to consent.

Again -- Are you suggesting that poly relationships and poly marriages are comparable to pedophilia?
 
Medusa said:
why not ?

if a 14 years old girl can have sex with his 14 years old boyfriend because they are consent ?

taht girl has the right to choose whom to have sex with,according to your arguments......

incest is disgusting ?

?

where is their freedom ?

if they are consent....
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What the hell are you talking about? We're talking about CONSENTING ADULTS. NO one here is talking about marrying or having sex with children except for you.
 
Arcana XV said:
You probably missed the part where the consent has to be between legal adults. :) That's okay. Take your time. You'll get there.
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this is not honesty

if a teenager can have sex with the other teenagers , it means she he has enough maturity to make decisions about his sex life.and please let him have sex with guys over 30 ..

according to this logic.
 
Medusa said:
this is not honesty

if a teenager can have sex with the other teenagers , it means she he has enough maturity to make decisions about his sex life.and please let him have sex with guys over 30 ..

according to this logic.
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OMG! :lamo
 
ChrisL said:
What the hell are you talking about? We're talking about CONSENTING ADULTS. NO one here is talking about marrying or having sex with children except for you.
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children ?

can children have sex ?

arent they children?

they seem to be consent to have sex .
 
Medusa said:
can anybody be killed because he is consent ?
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Anybody who is of sound mind and whose health is deteriorating rapidly, is in unbearable physical pain or unable/unwilling to go on living a normal life due to extreme physical health conditions (i.e paralyzed from the neck down..etc)
 
Medusa said:
children ?

can children have sex ?

arent they children?

they seem to be consent to have sex .
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I think you're confused.
 
if they are still child ,dont let them have sex with anybody

if they are mature enough to have sex ,stop deciding for them and let them have sex with whomever they want .

l think ,if one of them is under 18 ,the other one is convicted from pedohilia ?

is it honesty or justice ?
 
Arcana XV said:
Anybody who is of sound mind and whose health is deteriorating rapidly, is in unbearable physical pain or unable/unwilling to go on living a normal life due to extreme physical health conditions (i.e paralyzed from the neck down..etc)
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it is called euthanasia and l approve it too..
 
Medusa said:
if they are still child ,dont let them have sex with anybody

if they are mature enough to have sex ,stop deciding for them and let them have sex with whomever they want .

l think ,if one of them is under 18 ,the other one is convicted from pedohilie ?

is it honesty or justice ?
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What does ANY of this have to do with polygamy?
 
ChrisL said:
What does ANY of this have to do with polygamy?
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Medusa, I understand that you have a lot of different experiences in your country than we do here, but we are talking about the United States. Things like an old man marrying a whole bunch of little girls would NEVER fly here.
 
ChrisL said:
Medusa, I understand that you have a lot of different experiences in your country than we do here, but we are talking about the United States. Things like an old man marrying a whole bunch of little girls would NEVER fly here.
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old men cant marry with little girls here either !! we are not arabia!!
 
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