View Poll Results: must polygamy be legalized ?

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  • yes ,because it is a matter of freedom and it must be legalized

    30 38.96%
  • it must be legalized for only men

    1 1.30%
  • it must be legalized for both men and women

    16 20.78%
  • no ,it is a kind of perversion and it has nothing to do with freedom

    10 12.99%
  • it is just a marginality which may harm society

    4 5.19%
  • it was a tradition in many ancient cultures and defending it doesnt seem so liberalal

    9 11.69%
  • being against it is a bigotry and l defend polygamy as an enlightened person

    5 6.49%
  • it is better than monogamy

    1 1.30%
  • l dont care

    20 25.97%
  • others

    14 18.18%
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    re: polygamy ? [W: 267,434]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    This is a TERRIBLE argument against polygamist marriage.
    why not ?

    if a 14 years old girl can have sex with his 14 years old boyfriend because they are consent ?

    taht girl has the right to choose whom to have sex with,according to your arguments......

    incest is disgusting ?

    ?

    where is their freedom ?

    if they are consent....
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    re: polygamy ? [W: 267,434]

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    if they are consent

    according to your interesting logic.........
    You probably missed the part where the consent has to be between legal adults. That's okay. Take your time. You'll get there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Pretty much every law relating to marriage and divorce would have to be evaluated and possibly changed.
    I don't see why.

    For example, what happens if one member of a polygamous marriage wants a divorce? Do the other two (or more) stay married or does the entire marriage end?
    The person who wants to leave the marriage of course. It's not so confusing.

    How would the marriages even be set up? For the simplest iteration, say two women and one man, would all three spouses be married to each other, or would the two women just be each married to the man? Would the laws need to take into account both types?
    I don't see what that has to do with any laws at all.

    How do children in a polygamous marriage work? Are all spouses the child's parent or just the biological parents?
    Biological of course. If it is an adopted child, then those arrangements would probable be worked out during the adoption process.

    What happens if one spouse is unable to make medical decisions? Do all other spouses have equal rights to make decisions? Is there a hierarchy? What if the other spouses disagree? How is that resolved?
    Of course all spouses would be entitled to the same medical decision rights as any other spouse in any other marriage.

    I could go on longer, but hopefully this illustrates my point. I'm not saying these questions are impossible (or even hard) to answer, I'm just saying that at the moment, none of our marriage laws account for more than 2 people in a marriage, and a lot of changes would need to be made in order for them to do so. And that means money.
    It really doesn't. I don't see it being that big of deal or very expensive at all.

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    re: polygamy ? [W: 267,434]

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Pretty much every law relating to marriage and divorce would have to be evaluated and possibly changed.

    For example, what happens if one member of a polygamous marriage wants a divorce? Do the other two (or more) stay married or does the entire marriage end?

    How would the marriages even be set up? For the simplest iteration, say two women and one man, would all three spouses be married to each other, or would the two women just be each married to the man? Would the laws need to take into account both types?

    How do children in a polygamous marriage work? Are all spouses the child's parent or just the biological parents?

    What happens if one spouse is unable to make medical decisions? Do all other spouses have equal rights to make decisions? Is there a hierarchy? What if the other spouses disagree? How is that resolved?

    I could go on longer, but hopefully this illustrates my point. I'm not saying these questions are impossible (or even hard) to answer, I'm just saying that at the moment, none of our marriage laws account for more than 2 people in a marriage, and a lot of changes would need to be made in order for them to do so. And that means money.
    I actually don't think it's that complicated. If you've got 3 chicks and 2 dudes in a marital relationship, any one of them are married to any other of them equally.

    In circumstances where a next-of-kin needs to be designated (one spouse is mortally injured and in the hospital, so who of the other 4 gets to make medical decisions), that can be handled with some forethought -- a medical proxy, for example.

    Honestly, I think if we allowed poly people to define their own marriage arrangements via contract and then was as a society simply gave legal recognition to those arrangements, a lot of these "difficult" questions would have fairly simple solutions.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    re: polygamy ? [W: 267,434]

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Okay. So we went from polygamous marriage, which is ideally about love and all that good stuff, to depression, murder and cannibals. Who's not being honest anymore here? You're comparing things that are so not in the same ballpark, it's getting ridiculous-
    can anybody be killed because he is consent ?
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    re: polygamy ? [W: 267,434]

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    if they are consent

    according to your interesting logic.........
    My interesting logic? That was my first post in this thread. Do try to keep up.

    It's illegal for adults to have sex with children because children are legally UNABLE to consent.

    Again -- Are you suggesting that poly relationships and poly marriages are comparable to pedophilia?
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    re: polygamy ? [W: 267,434]

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    why not ?

    if a 14 years old girl can have sex with his 14 years old boyfriend because they are consent ?

    taht girl has the right to choose whom to have sex with,according to your arguments......

    incest is disgusting ?

    ?

    where is their freedom ?

    if they are consent....
    What the hell are you talking about? We're talking about CONSENTING ADULTS. NO one here is talking about marrying or having sex with children except for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    You probably missed the part where the consent has to be between legal adults. That's okay. Take your time. You'll get there.

    this is not honesty

    if a teenager can have sex with the other teenagers , it means she he has enough maturity to make decisions about his sex life.and please let him have sex with guys over 30 ..

    according to this logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    this is not honesty

    if a teenager can have sex with the other teenagers , it means she he has enough maturity to make decisions about his sex life.and please let him have sex with guys over 30 ..

    according to this logic.
    OMG!

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    re: polygamy ? [W: 267,434]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    What the hell are you talking about? We're talking about CONSENTING ADULTS. NO one here is talking about marrying or having sex with children except for you.
    children ?

    can children have sex ?

    arent they children?

    they seem to be consent to have sex .
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