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If possession and/or use of marijuana carried the ...

If possession and/or use of marijuana carried the death penalty, would you continue t

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FreedomFromAll said:
1. THC is real
2. If marijuana was legal to grow then no one would need to buy it from thugs, not that most people buy weed from thugs in the first place.
3. Damn you now I want some apple pie.
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#2 - I'm not so sure about that. For every legal product there's a black market that aids the individuals in sidestepping taxes, legalities and other such things. Everything from purses to moonshine.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
#2 - I'm not so sure about that. For every legal product there's a black market that aids the individuals in sidestepping taxes, legalities and other such things. Everything from purses to moonshine.
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Of course, but the gains from tax-dodging or copyright violations are miniscule, comparing to the super-profits drug cartels are enjoying under the dark cloud of the Idiotic War on Drugs.

We have to come to terms with the harsh reality: Most of the violent crime that kills our children and destroys our neighborhoods is a direct result of our own well-intentioned policies. We had ignored both common sense and experience [we had a prohibition once already, anyone remembers?] in favor of our "progressive" optimism. "It doesn't make any sense, but together we can do it!". "Yes, we can" - and that's the problem.
 
Cyrylek said:
Of course, but the gains from tax-dodging or copyright violations are miniscule, comparing to the super-profits drug cartels are enjoying under the dark cloud of the Idiotic War on Drugs.

We have to come to terms with the harsh reality: Most of the violent crime that kills our children and destroys our neighborhoods is a direct result of our own well-intentioned policies. We had ignored both common sense and experience [we had a prohibition once already, anyone remembers?] in favor of our "progressive" optimism. "It doesn't make any sense, but together we can do it!". "Yes, we can" - and that's the problem.
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So you really think they'll just go away and stop dabbling in it?

First - people don't seem to understand why the cartels do what they do: financial security, wealth, notoriety - etc.
So - given that . . . What would they do for a living, then? In their nation - their region - and their culture. . . what would they do to continue to have financial security, wealthy and notoriety?

Do you honestly believe they'll just stop - roll over - and go away? Just stop being cartels with weapons, peons and doing whatever they want? It's foolhardy to think so. . . They will not just roll over and earn an honest living. They will find something else - use their resources and abilities to do something else.

Don't even underestimate your opponents - which is obviously what you're doing with your 'they'll just stop misbehaving' crap. Will they? How - on what reason would they?
 
Aunt Spiker said:
Do you honestly believe they'll just stop - roll over - and go away?
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Did the bootleggers and gangsters of the 1920s just stop - roll over - and go away, after the Original Idiotic War on (some) Drugs was discontinued?

They kinda did. Because their "turf advantages" and "international connections" (no offence, Canada) had suddenly lost all meaning. And violent crime had decreased sharply - I dont think many people realize just how sharply - look up any statistics on homicide in America "before" and "after'.
 
Cyrylek said:
Did the bootleggers and gangsters of the 1920s just stop - roll over - and go away, after the Original Idiotic War on (some) Drugs was discontinued?

They kinda did. Because their "turf advantages" and "international connections" (no offence, Canada) had suddenly lost all meaning. And violent crime had decreased sharply - I dont think many people realize just how sharply - look up any statistics on homicide in America "before" and "after'.
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During prohibition, there were many including Congress who blamed all of the gun violence on guns and the easy access to guns.

This is when Congress passed it's first gun control legislation, making it more difficult to purchase handguns and sub machineguns. But as soon as they repealed the Eighteenth Amendment it was discovered that it wasn't the gun that was responsible for all of the gun violence.

But the restrictions of legally owning a sub machinegun, full automatic rifles and machineguns remained in place. You could still legally purchase and posses a machinegun in America, all you have to do is go through a background check to show your a law abiding citizen and pay a one time ATF / BATF tax of $200.

Today there are 1/4 of a million full automatic sub machineguns, full automatic rifles and machineguns legally owned by law abiding citizens. The BATF report to Congress shows that since the repealing of the Eighteenth Amendment not one of the 1/4 of a million full automatic firearms that are legally owned by citizens has ever been used in a crime. NOT ONE !
 
Im a "casual" smoker of cannabis. So yes, i probably would. Really not afraid of getting caught. Even if it did carry the death penalty i think most cops would turn a blind eye because of the severity of the punishment. Most cops dont have the gestapo mentality.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Im a "casual" smoker of cannabis. So yes, i probably would. Really not afraid of getting caught. Even if it did carry the death penalty i think most cops would turn a blind eye because of the severity of the punishment. Most cops dont have the gestapo mentality.
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Most cops don't have a gestapo mentality?

Most cops do have a gestapo mentality but most cops are lazy. What would you prefer -- sitting in an office with your boss on your back doing paperwork or sitting at the local DD?

The corruption that would ensue to have them cops turn a blind eye would be devastating.

Keep a dime bag on you.............. see a beautiful woman you can't ever dream of getting............death or............. See a bentley driving down the road, child support is killing you....

the math isn't hard to figure out.
 
ChezC3 said:
Most cops don't have a gestapo mentality?

Most cops do have a gestapo mentality but most cops are lazy. What would you prefer -- sitting in an office with your boss on your back doing paperwork or sitting at the local DD?

The corruption that would ensue to have them cops turn a blind eye would be devastating.

Keep a ldime bag on you.............. see a beautiful woman you can't ever dream of getting............death or.............

the math isn't hard to figure out.
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:confused::confused::confused:
 
Cyrylek said:
I guess the general state of confusion is what makes a (sincere) socialist different from a left-libertarian ;)
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the funny thing is I was confused by his confusion...:shrug:
 
Aunt Spiker said:
#2 - I'm not so sure about that. For every legal product there's a black market that aids the individuals in sidestepping taxes, legalities and other such things. Everything from purses to moonshine.
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I think you watch too much prime time tv or something. Most weed is bought from mom and pop operations that have nothing to do with crime, other than the fact that there is a prohibition on marijuana. I mean if it was legal it wouldnt be illegal. Its like growing tobacco, you can tobacco legally just not tobacco products from your home. Most marijuana is unprepared raw plant material. Marijuana is sold by weight not as a product. The people that sell joints/blunts are selling marijuana product. But most people dont sell it that way.

Its like making hops or grapes illegal to sell.
 
Honest answer?

I'd forsake this nation as a fascist dictatorship gone nutjob and expatriate to Australia.
 
Adding the death penalty would likely make me want to do it even more, just to tell them "**** you fight me". They can take me in if they want to, but they'll have to work for it.
 
Surtr said:
Adding the death penalty would likely make me want to do it even more, just to tell them "**** you fight me". They can take me in if they want to, but they'll have to work for it.
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What does this mean? You'll eat so many pizzas they'll have to carry you via several people?
 
Surtr said:
Adding the death penalty would likely make me want to do it even more, just to tell them "**** you fight me". They can take me in if they want to, but they'll have to work for it.
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I doubt it.

I don't partake now so I wouldn't partake then.

I wouldn't partake even if it was legal... I would maybe try some brownies, but that's it. The idea of smoking things is beyond stupid and distgusting to me.
 
This poll is like a glimpse into Tigger's dream society.

I would not smoke if it carried the death penalty. I would probably be with some resistance group here in the south though to try and get our country back.
 
For some reason I highly doubt those who replied with a yes would still continue to partake once they saw a friend or family member executed for it.
 
specklebang said:
So, nobody get mad at me. I just saw a chance to pose a hypothetical question in line with the OP.

Suppose they made guns illegal - death penalty for possessing one (or maybe just 30 years in prison). Would you gun owners still keep one?

(Before you go into the usual rant about guns - I don't own one and I don't mind if you do. OK?)

Curiosity etc.....
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Make a poll thread.
 
Excon said:
For some reason I highly doubt those who replied with a yes would still continue to partake once they saw a friend or family member executed for it.
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Excon, if non-use of marijuana carried the death penalty, would you rather smoke weed or be executed?
 
ChunkySalsa said:
Excon, if non-use of marijuana carried the death penalty, would you rather smoke weed or be executed?
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Start the thread/topic/poll and maybe I, as well as others, will answer.
 
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