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    Re: Live as a survivalist or die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    "Patriot" is the name of the book. I've got a copy at home myself, and it's been an interesting read so far. There are at least two more books in the series.

    Personally, I'd survive. Then again, that sort of society wouldn't bother me as much as it probably would many of you; since it's a lot closer to my utopia than what we live in today.
    Good afternoon, Tigger.

    The book is a frightening read! Another is "The Road," which was also made into a movie.

    When law and order break down, and everything that can be looted or stolen has been, starvation follows...and then cannibalism, if history is any guide. Since our food stores normally only have a three-day supply of food on hand, and no deliveries possible to replenish the stock, what will people do? Depending upon how long something like that could last, and depending how prepared you are to weather it, will probably determine your fate. Would our military step in and run things, as they did in Libya and other places? Will everyone at that point be willing to work for food?

    During the Y2K scare of 13 years ago, both the government and companies spent millions of dollars to ensure that electronics and computers would still function. In a total collapse, those things would soon be worthless, IMO. Money won't be worth anything, but food and water will, if you have the means to protect what you have, and the knowledge to grow food for future use...including animals. Too many people do not have that knowledge today, I'm afraid. Too easy to stop at McDonalds or Taco Bell when you're hungry.

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    Re: Live as a survivalist or die?

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    How wouldn't it be exciting? You'd have to be on your toes!
    Ok, what about my numerous elders? One can't walk. Another can't walk distances. A third has a hip replacement. A fourth is has Alzheimer's to the extent she can't live alone, but isn't ready for a home. The rest are merely old and all are on medications they cannot live long without.

    On my toes? Yeah, I might have half a chance with my kids. Them? How am I going to care for them?

    Thank you, I'd rather do without chaos, especially that which ends the lives of the people who have cared for me all my life.

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    Re: Live as a survivalist or die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    My hero, Burt Gummer...

    Terrific reference! "Gall darned underground monsters!"

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    Re: Live as a survivalist or die?

    I'd survive regardless.

    Can we up the ante by making this collapse of society one based in a zombie apocalypse movie?

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    Re: Live as a survivalist or die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    One more thought, my father is a survivalist. The contemplation of the end of society was an anchor around my neck since I was old enough to understand it and until i could make my own life.

    If any of you survivalists have children, consider not saddling them with end of the world talk while they are young. Preparation, fine, but constant vigilance and discussion about contemporary events and how those events could end life as they know it, not so much. Life is fraught enough with everyday worries for kids without end of the world talk on a regular basis.

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    I am a 'survivalist' I reckon. My kids...better at it than me. Our family has an 'Alamo' that we would all do our best to get to and gather at should things get completely hinkey. Its sustainable and defensible. But should getting there be impossible, we grab 1 pack each and head into the mountains. I wouldnt stick around near cities and wouldnt try to defend my current home.

    People thinking about stockpiling weapons ought to do some serious logistics. If you have to go mobile, you can carry several thousand rounds of 22 magnum or LR ammunition. You arent carrying that much .223 or .308 ammo very far.

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    Re: Live as a survivalist or die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    You do know that Mad Max is just a movie, right?

    The reality is that the real psychopaths who would flourish in this supposed anarchic wasteland are few and far between, and the rest of the population prefers law and order. There is just no realistic scenario where the character of the vast majority of people will suddenly change, nor one where "society will collapse". That only happens in fiction. Just like the fictional world that survivalists base their decisions on.
    I think most major cities will be abandoned and those that are left will basically play king of the ****pile and spend most of their time killing each other off. The surviving part of society (and that which will reinvest in law and order) will be small towns (should it ever come to that).

    I dont know that i really much fear it will ever come to that.

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    Re: Live as a survivalist or die?

    On the list of things I have to worry about surviving, an imaginary collapse of civilization isn't on it.
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    Re: Live as a survivalist or die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    You do know that Mad Max is just a movie, right?

    The reality is that the real psychopaths who would flourish in this supposed anarchic wasteland are few and far between, and the rest of the population prefers law and order. There is just no realistic scenario where the character of the vast majority of people will suddenly change, nor one where "society will collapse". That only happens in fiction. Just like the fictional world that survivalists base their decisions on.

    Pasch, there have been studies done on starvation... and after about ten days, people start turning "feral". Their higher brain functions become secondary to the portions of the brain that focus on survival issues. Their normal morals and restraints tend to go out the window in search for food, and past a certain point most people will kill for a mouthful if they can find it, and won't care whose it is.

    Civilization is a thin veneer that tends to work as long as we're well-fed, warm and dry... when someone is hungry, cold and wet... so starved their brain is no longer working right... that person is dangerous, even if ten days before they were an accountant who pasttime was fundraising for the Shriners' Childrens' Hospital.

    When a man's children are starving, looking at him and saying "Daddy, I'm so hungry, I think I'm going to die if I don't eat"... you don't want to get between that man and a food supply. I don't care if he was a Guidance Councelor at the high school two weeks ago, he's now a dangerous man.

    Depending on the scale and effects, a high-altitude EMP over North America could put us in that scenario... it is one of my major concerns with NK and Iran developing nukes and putting things in orbit with missles.

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    Re: Live as a survivalist or die?

    As long as I get to be Lord Humongous, plus I'm gonna team up with Kori and Goshin.
    I promise I have valuable skills.

    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
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    Re: Live as a survivalist or die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    You do know that Mad Max is just a movie, right?

    The reality is that the real psychopaths who would flourish in this supposed anarchic wasteland are few and far between, and the rest of the population prefers law and order. There is just no realistic scenario where the character of the vast majority of people will suddenly change, nor one where "society will collapse". That only happens in fiction. Just like the fictional world that survivalists base their decisions on.
    One word, Rwanda.

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