Yes, survive at all cost
No, better off dead.
I think the marauding isn't a way of life after collapse, I think it is part of the collapse. Assuming some people survive, order reestablishes itself eventually. The dangerous and scary survivalism amidst pillaging and plundering is part of the process of a real collapse. There are so many people now who are so utterly reliant on food and water being transported to them (and their waste away from them) that a real collapse would accelerate into chaos and disorder so quickly that the question this thread asks really only applies to a transitional, chaotic state that would be over (for better or worse) before too long.
"The knowledge and prudence of the poor themselves, are absolutely the only means by which any general and permanent improvement in their condition can be effected." - Thomas Malthus
To me pinned in a steel bunker is just waiting to die, no real lesson to be learned nor hope for the future. I have not read this particular book but have read several others and watched that 'Preppers'. I am always struck with how you have to buy into the story in order for it to be believable. but it is entertaining.
There was talk of what is worth fighting,(and dying) for, what does a man stand for.
One philosophy carries the 'yeast' for the restart of a society and the other just hopes someone else will.
I suppose it is different for different folks, I'd rather die defending a farmland strongpoint from the wretched that just don't understand they need to die out there away from us, with a hope it will help create a society than devolve to aboriginal level while waiting for someone else to fix this. I don't plan on living forever and dying defending something beats dying of an infection up in the mountains like so many mountain men back in the day. if I recall history, few mountain men lived for long up there.
Either way, total anarchy or restoring the Republic the end result is the same, society is going to be rebuilt- unless there are no humans left.
lets not limit the 'takers' to the 'urban' folks. most of suburbia are just as dependent on food and water bringing brought in a crap being hauled off, just have lawns to mow. I can see roving bands of suburban being a bit more dangerous, gangs are not near as well armed as the average suburban commando.
And lets not overlook rural takers, robber barons have a time honored tradition of setting up tolls for travelers. Bridges near a small town can become excellent toll points, along with any restriction on passage, roads through swamps, dense woods, mountain regions.
Mountain bandits needed vital supplies can bushwack travelers or lurk near camp site grounds in their regions looking to plunder for what they want/need.
No telling where the takers will appear and what they will look like....
All this survival talk made me think about getting some 30 round clips for my 10/22. Guess what, everybody is sold out. DAMN!
Last edited by sawyerloggingon; 02-07-13 at 03:09 PM.
How did some choose death over surviving I wonder!?
I'd want to live, hoping all the bad guys with guns kill each other and it will never come to that.