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    Do you Support the McGovern amendments? (money isnt free speech amendment)

    U.S. Rep. Jim McGovern (D-MA) has introduced two constitutional amendment bills: H.J.Res. 20, to enable us to get the money out of politics, and H.J.Res. 21, to make it clear that corporations don't have constitutional rights. H.J.Res. 21 has bipartisan support, from Rep. Walter Jones (R-NC).


    Do you support this amendment?
    Yes? No? Why?

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    Re: Do you Support the McGovern amendments? (money isnt free speech amendment)

    I vote yes. For serveral reasons.
    Money is not free speech. Money is not speech. I dont want democracy to be bought.
    Corporations are also not people.


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    Re: Do you Support the McGovern amendments? (money isnt free speech amendment)

    I can't think of one reason why anyone here wouldn't be for the amendment. It seems only the wealthy would be affected adversely.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I vote yes. For serveral reasons.
    Money is not free speech. Money is not speech. I dont want democracy to be bought.
    Corporations are also not people.
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    Re: Do you Support the McGovern amendments? (money isnt free speech amendment)

    Absolutely. This is the 'small-government' position on the issue.
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    Re: Do you Support the McGovern amendments? (money isnt free speech amendment)

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I vote yes. For serveral reasons.
    Money is not free speech. Money is not speech. I dont want democracy to be bought.
    Corporations are also not people.
    I agree with what you said, but our elections are bought. Both major parties received tons of money from special interests, lobbyist, big money donors, corporations, Wall Street, super pacs, money bundlers, and on and on. The candidates of the major parties are bought and paid. With out all these cash cows these candidates wouldn’t have enough money to run a creditable campaign.

    We have no fair elections for the House, most districts are gerrymandered, jury rigged so the results are known before the first vote is cast. I am with you.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    The idea of Corporate personhood disgusts me. Yes to the second resolution.

    First resolution I'm all for as well, lobbying should be a Federal crime. Only way you should be able to buy a politicians favour is with votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    I can't think of one reason why anyone here wouldn't be for the amendment. It seems only the wealthy would be affected adversely.
    I can: amending the constitution to limit or take away rights, even those I do not like, is against the very core of my principles. Further, amending the constitution for anything shy of major issues is something I am against. For both these reasons, while I appreciate the reason and the goal of the proposed amendments, I would have to oppose them.
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    Re: Do you Support the McGovern amendments? (money isnt free speech amendment)

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Do you support this amendment?
    Yes? No? Why?

    Video @: [/FONT]http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/7003/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=12682
    No, because of all the unintended consequences.
    Money is going to be in politics, whether or not, you like it.
    Right now, we can see it, more or less.

    All this would do is push it under the table.
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    Re: Do you Support the McGovern amendments? (money isnt free speech amendment)

    I refuse to believe a corporation is a person until Texas executes one.

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    Re: Do you Support the McGovern amendments? (money isnt free speech amendment)

    No. This is pure demagoguery.

    Corporation is just a form of organization. Corporations do not speak, they are inanimate - the people who constitute corporations do. Blocking their right to free speech by blocking the use of corporate funds (or union, or NGO funds, since those are also covered by the famous - and correct - SCOTUS decision) is an attack on freedom of speech, plain and simple.

    (It is interesting, by the way, that opponents of Citizens United pretend not to understand how limiting spending on speech to personal checking accounts would have exactly the effect of disenfranchising the "little guy": Soros and Koch can spend (and do spend) much more on supporting their views than you or I ever could).

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