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    Re: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    if we consider women's status and roles in both regimes , nazism seems more despotic

    In rhetorics.

    In reality, both under Hitler and under Stalin, the heavy emphasis was made on woman's role as child-bearer at the detriment of active roles outside of the family (in contrast with the early period of Lenin-Trotsky). The Stalinist and post-Stalinist Soviet society was extremely male-dominated, women often doing hard, menial work, while virtually all managment on all levels (outisde of schools) were men.

    Hitler had Gertrud Schltz-Klink and Magda Goebbels in positions of power; Stalin had no women in his government (Alexandra Kollontai, appointed by Lenin, remained an ambassador of low rank).

    Hitler did not ban abortion until 1943; Stalin did prohibit abortion (and made divorces more difficult) in 1936 - and the ban lasted until 1955.

    I don't think many people realize how socially conservative the Soviet regime had become under Stalin. Homosexuality was a felony punishable by 10 years in prison, for example (10 years in the Siberian gulag is pretty close to death penalty, in practical terms)

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    Re: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    Fascism is a totalitarian system that cooperates with industry
    Not really. Mussolini had promoted "corporatism" (nothing to do with corporations): the State, the workers and the entrepreneurs were supposed to form some sort of fusion, uniting in one happy whole. In reality, of course, it meant simply domination of the State.

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    Re: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    In rhetorics.

    In reality, both under Hitler and under Stalin, the heavy emphasis was made on woman's role as child-bearer at the detriment of active roles outside of the family (in contrast with the early period of Lenin-Trotsky). The Stalinist and post-Stalinist Soviet society was extremely male-dominated, women often doing hard, menial work, while virtually all managment on all levels (outisde of schools) were men.

    Hitler had Gertrud Schltz-Klink and Magda Goebbels in positions of power; Stalin had no women in his government (Alexandra Kollontai, appointed by Lenin, remained an ambassador of low rank).

    Hitler did not ban abortion until 1943; Stalin did prohibit abortion (and made divorces more difficult) in 1936 - and the ban lasted until 1955.

    I don't think many people realize how socially conservative the Soviet regime had become under Stalin. Homosexuality was a felony punishable by 10 years in prison, for example (10 years in the Siberian gulag is pretty close to death penalty, in practical terms)


    l didnt claim the opposite .but when they are compared to each other ,nazism seems more atrocious and more sexist

    it is interesting to see some people try to justify nazism

    . Women's rights: While some islands had granted women the right to vote even in the 19th century, the first major wave came in early 20th century. By 1917, only four major countries – Australia, Finland, Norway and Denmark – had moved to women’s suffrage. The 1917 Russian Revolution, advocating equal rights for all, raised the fear that feminists would find a communist system more appealing, and may conspire with the Bolsheviks to import it into Western countries. The best way to nip such a threat in its bud was to grant women the right to vote. Britain and Germany allowed this in 1918, the United States followed in 1920, and others shortly took their lead. France was the only major power to not grant this right till 1944.



    . Labor laws: This one is rather obvious - we have a 5-day work week, paid 2-4 week holidays, maternity leave, health coverage, safety standards for laborers, etc. because of the pressure communism built against capitalism. We never got to communism with a human face, but thanks to the USSR, we did achieve capitalism with a human face
    http://indrus.in/articles/2011/12/22...for_14072.html
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    Re: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

    Well, at least we gained medical knowledge from Mengele and other Nazi experiments. So ... Communists are worse. to me.
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    scientific by itself isn't enough of course.
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    Re: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

    [QUOTE=Jredbaron96;1061432770] by itself, the ideology of Communism does not call for mass murder. [QUOTE]

    Sure it does. People are separated in artificial "classes", some declared the "class enemy" and targeted for elimination.

    It is just not bound to ethnicity, in the case of Communists. (Theoretically, that is. In practice, ethnic groups - Kalmyks, Kazakhs, Poles, Chechens and many others, including Jews, right beore Stalin died - were targeted as well. Naturally: no two ethnic groups are exactly the same, socio-economically; your goal may be exterminate kulaks, the "rich" peasants who do not want to join collective farms, you end up killing a whole lot of Kalmyks whose shepharding habits are incompatible with collective farms. (The Kalmyks repaid by generally supporting the Nazis in during the war, and then were summarily deported to Siberia - the whole nation)

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    Re: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    From what I read on DP we are already a Communist nation and that's working out pretty good for me. I don't know how Nazi-ism would work out for me.
    Move to New York City for a few months if you really want to know......

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    Re: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Well, at least we gained medical knowledge from Mengele and other Nazi experiments. So ... Communists are worse. to me.
    sarcasm.............
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    Re: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    sarcasm.............
    Negative.
    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I've never denied my own hackish tendencies
    Quote Originally Posted by Pin dÁr View Post
    scientific by itself isn't enough of course.
    Quote Originally Posted by blaxshep View Post
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    Re: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I would wager you would be just as good if not better than most of the presidents we have had during my lifetime.
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    Good morning, Pero.

    After reading some of his posts, I agree. Soooo...he has my vote!

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    Re: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I'm cool with a benevolent monarch.
    Just have to find one first.
    I could free up my schedule.
    "you're better off on Stormfront discussing how evil brown men are taking innocent white flowers." Infinite Chaos

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