View Poll Results: Are Nazis or Communists worse?

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Thread: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

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    Re: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Fascism > Communism

    Both are simply competing versions of socialism, but I'll take the one that at least featured some ability of the individual to "own" property.

    Mind you, both are evil and deserve rebellion and overthrow.
    Both are political ideologies that are competing versions of totalitarianism.

    Capitalism and Socialism are competing versions of economic systems.

    Both capitalism and socialism as economic systems can be combined with democratic political systems, neither fascism nor communism can be combined with democratic political systems. Do not misunderstand the reality that they can come to power by democratic means, but neither fascism nor communism can exist in a society where free democratic decisions can be made.

    Fascism is a totalitarian system that cooperates with industry, communism is a totalitarian system that takes ownership of industry, beyond that, the main similarity is that dissention is often a terminal position.

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    Re: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Well, science is saying that, we're really ****ty at choosing representatives.
    For me, that says we aren't ready for this.

    Maybe in 1000 years or more.
    I dunno what the alternative should be.
    Another thing Harry, most voters tend to vote for party these days instead of what is best for them or where the candidates stand on the issues. If you are a Democrat or lend that way, these people will wait until Obama or the Democrats take their stand on a particual issue and then all for it with out even studing the issue or even looking at the issue to see how it will effect them and then make their choice based on an informed observation. Of course the same is true for those of the Republican ilk, they are automaticly against anything that Obama does or what the Democrats are for and vice versa. Very few people make up their minds where they stand issue by issue by determing which side of that issue is best for them and perhaps for the country as a whole. So, once again, I agree.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I forget who said this, but it was one of the founding fathers, he said the most efficient government and one that is the best for the people is a benevolent monarchy. So the wheel has turned full cycles.
    I'm cool with a benevolent monarch.
    Just have to find one first.
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    Re: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Another thing Harry, most voters tend to vote for party these days instead of what is best for them or where the candidates stand on the issues. If you are a Democrat or lend that way, these people will wait until Obama or the Democrats take their stand on a particual issue and then all for it with out even studing the issue or even looking at the issue to see how it will effect them and then make their choice based on an informed observation. Of course the same is true for those of the Republican ilk, they are automaticly against anything that Obama does or what the Democrats are for and vice versa. Very few people make up their minds where they stand issue by issue by determing which side of that issue is best for them and perhaps for the country as a whole. So, once again, I agree.
    Pretty much agree.
    I decide my vote on the issues.
    Unfortunately, that means I don't vote.

    No candidate has a good handle on the issues and largely parrots back what their base wants to hear.
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    Re: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I'm cool with a benevolent monarch.
    Just have to find one first.
    How about a constitutional democracy, i.e. England although the Queen is more or less powerless. Thailand, where the King doesn't meddle in the government, but when he says something, the people and the parliment listen and they take his advice.

    The problem with most monarchies is there are so few benevolent Kings. Once again back to an old saying about power corupts and absolute power corupts absolutely. Most benevolent kings or monarchies are those of fables like King Author and King RIchard. Where is Merlin when you need him?
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

    I'd have to say Nazis.

    While the Communists killed more, I'd say that by itself, the ideology of Communism does not call for mass murder like the Nazis did.

    Still, lesser of two evils.
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    Re: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    How about a constitutional democracy, i.e. England although the Queen is more or less powerless. Thailand, where the King doesn't meddle in the government, but when he says something, the people and the parliment listen and they take his advice.

    The problem with most monarchies is there are so few benevolent Kings. Once again back to an old saying about power corupts and absolute power corupts absolutely. Most benevolent kings or monarchies are those of fables like King Author and King RIchard. Where is Merlin when you need him?
    Just make me king, I promise I'll be good.

    Using some kind of poll test, would likely be better than swapping government.
    A poll test like the citizenship exam.
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    Re: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Pretty much agree.
    I decide my vote on the issues.
    Unfortunately, that means I don't vote.

    No candidate has a good handle on the issues and largely parrots back what their base wants to hear.
    I too decide where I stand on the issues one by one. I do vote, but out of the last 6 presidential elections, 5 times I have voted third party, only once was my choice for one of the two major party candidates. The two major parties do not owe their allegiance to the people or those who elected them, the two major parties allegiance are to their special interest, lobbyist, the big money cash donors, super pacs, corporations and wall street firms etc. Their allegiance is to the people and firms that give them their millions and millions, in simple English, most of the candidates of both major parties are bought and paid for even before they begin their run for office.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    Which of the two listed above are worse for you?

    Me? Nazis without a doubt.
    I would say that what ever group that killed more people is worse.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Which are worse for you? Nazis or Communists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Just make me king, I promise I'll be good.

    Using some kind of poll test, would likely be better than swapping government.
    A poll test like the citizenship exam.
    I would wager you would be just as good if not better than most of the presidents we have had during my lifetime.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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