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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    They aren't really all that different.
    You may find some minor exceptions, but exceptions don't disprove the rule.

    There is nearly always an undercurrent of typical human behavior between genders.
    They're extremely different. The world is split between monogamy, polygyny, and promiscuity. Some places have 2 genders. Some have 5. There are a few matriarchies around. And then there's hunter-gatherer societies, which are nearly void of patriarchy. Human cultures are extremely, almost unbelievably diverse.

    The only kind you seem to be familiar with are post-agricultural, Abrahamic religious societies.

    Killing isn't always wrong.
    *sigh*

    Yes, I know. Are you going to address the point?

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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Not inherently.

    I thought not.


    I don't believe it's entirely a gender issue, but the vast differences between men and women are certainly a factor. All throughout the social classes, there is more pressure for men to perform than women. Even in modern "enlightened" structures, men are required to work harder to provide for the needs and wants of their families. The price of not doing so is extremely punitive. In poorer social classes, these extremes sometimes lead to domestic violence, physical abuse, like beating a young boys ass until he breaks because he isn't being manly enough, or because he's kind of a pussy. That **** really ****s a kid up, but it's a ****ed up world we live in.
    No one has said gender wasn't "a" factor. Hedgemonic masculinity makes the most logical sense as the biggest factor when we compare intentional homicides by country.

    By the way, most mass murderer's in the US are from middle class backgrounds, not poor backgrounds. The profile for a mass murderer in the US is middle class, white, young, male.
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    They're extremely different. The world is split between monogamy, polygyny, and promiscuity. Some places have 2 genders. Some have 5. There are a few matriarchies around. And then there's hunter-gatherer societies, which are nearly void of patriarchy. Human cultures are extremely, almost unbelievably diverse.

    The only kind you seem to be familiar with are post-agricultural, Abrahamic religious societies.
    Societies with our similar cultural/society standards are the most successful.
    Little tribes here and there, with these odd little ways of functioning aren't sweeping the world.
    In modern times, they are an anachronism.

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    *sigh*

    Yes, I know. Are you going to address the point?
    Guys have a greater capacity to kill.
    It's ingrained in us, before birth.
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Unless you're a dedicated psychologist who has studied this problem in depth... and have training and understanding on the matter, you're opinion is worthless in this thread and the whole thread is pretty darn inept.

    I'm just saying...

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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    We are, and I believe males are more likely to mass murder because it's part of our biological functioning.

    We can kill easier than females and we have wonky brains.

    But, homicide rates are the single factor towards violence and mental stability.
    Like the Nordic countries, they may have less homicides but more suicides.


    The link works now, but I don't believe the site is compatible with Chrome.
    The text of the paper isn't showing up.
    Thanks though.


    If you wish to start a thread about violence in general, please do so.

    This one is about mass murders, and your personal theory doesn't explain the wide variation in intentional homicides in different countries.

    Anyone else having trouble reading the text on the Hedgemonic Masculinity link I posted? Is Chrome the only browser you have access to?
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I thought not.
    Well stop playing coy and get to the point.




    By the way, most mass murderer's in the US are from middle class backgrounds, not poor backgrounds. The profile for a mass murderer in the US is middle class, white, young, male.
    Some are, some aren't. The middle class is also the most burdened social class in the US.
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If you wish to start a thread about violence in general, please do so.

    This one is about mass murders, and your personal theory doesn't explain the wide variation in intentional homicides in different countries.
    If you're only wanting to leave it to homicides, I can only say that guys have a greater capacity to kill.
    Because even in countries with lower homicides, the main/most likely perpetrator is male.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Anyone else having trouble reading the text on the Hedgemonic Masculinity link I posted? Is Chrome the only browser you have access to?
    I can use IE, I just really don't like it.
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Societies with our similar cultural/society standards are the most successful.
    Little tribes here and there, with these odd little ways of functioning aren't sweeping the world.
    In modern times, they are an anachronism.
    If they're so "successful," then why are we gradually moving away from those repressing kinds of norms? If it works so great, why not keep doing it?

    Hell, it didn't even last very long. Do you have any idea how short our iteration of culture really was before we started moving away from it, in the grand scheme of anthropology? It's tiny.

    And by the way, those tribes have been around a lot longer than we have. I would hardly call them unsuccessful. They actually enjoy relatively long lives, a lot less work, and better social cohesion.

    The only reason we moved to agriculture is because our population out-stripped the natural capacity of the land. And when we made that move, pretty much everything got worse: our lifespans were cut in half and took thousands of years to recover, we had to work twice as much, massive social inequalities erupted, violence went off the chart, etc. The only reason we kept doing it was to feed ourselves.

    Part of the reason they're successful is because they keep their numbers down.

    Guys have a greater capacity to kill.
    It's ingrained in us, before birth.
    Right, then. I notice you still haven't produced any evidence that this is a purely biological phenomenon, despite extremely variable rates across cultures.
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    If they're so "successful," then why are we gradually moving away from those repressing kinds of norms? If it works so great, why not keep doing it?

    Hell, it didn't even last very long. Do you have any idea how short our iteration of culture really was before we started moving away from it, in the grand scheme of things? It's tiny.

    And by the way, those tribes have been around a lot longer than we have. I would hardly call them unsuccessful. They actually enjoy relatively long lives, a lot less work, and better social cohesion.

    The only reason we moved to agriculture is because our population out-stripped the natural capacity of the land. And when we made that move, pretty much everything got worse: our lifespans were cut in half and took thousands of years to recover, we had to work twice as much, massive social inequalities erupted, violence went off the chart, etc. The only reason we kept doing it was to feed ourselves.

    Part of the reason they're successful is because they keep their numbers down.

    Right, then. I notice you still haven't produced any evidence that this is a purely biological phenomenon, despite extremely variable rates across cultures.
    Violence is higher in polygamous societies, actually. Turns out that young, unattached men who don't see a future for themselves are the most socially destructive element out there. This is a huge problem right now in much of Asia, which has been gender-selecting their children through abortion for the past couple of decades, and now is reaping the Bare Branches.

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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    If they're so "successful," then why are we gradually moving away from those repressing kinds of norms? If it works so great, why not keep doing it?
    We aren't.
    Developed nations are still inherently relying on males to support females/children.
    In this case though, males are getting less for their contributions.

    It's an artifice that would completely dissolve if the state were to break down.

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Hell, it didn't even last very long. Do you have any idea how short our iteration of culture really was before we started moving away from it, in the grand scheme of anthropology? It's tiny.
    Yes, that short time was probably the absolute greatest for all humans participating ever.


    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    And by the way, those tribes have been around a lot longer than we have. I would hardly call them unsuccessful. They actually enjoy relatively long lives, a lot less work, and better social cohesion.
    I rate their success on more than one factor.
    Let's just throw in childhood mortality, that would overturn a lot of their success.

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    The only reason we moved to agriculture is because our population out-stripped the natural capacity of the land. And when we made that move, pretty much everything got worse: our lifespans were cut in half and took thousands of years to recover, we had to work twice as much, massive social inequalities erupted, violence went off the chart, etc. The only reason we kept doing it was to feed ourselves.
    No.
    We turned to agriculture because it's more reliant than chasing herds of animals or hoping that next bush or tree has food on it.


    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Part of the reason they're successful is because they keep their numbers down.
    Their numbers are kept down because their children die and often.

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    Right, then. I notice you still haven't produced any evidence that this is a purely biological phenomenon, despite extremely variable rates across cultures.
    The endocrine system and testosterone linked to aggression is pretty darn good evidence.
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