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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Testostorone. Men naturally have ~10x as much of it as women do. Its quite well documented that when individuals take exogenous androgens, they are more prone to showing aggressive and/or violent behavior. I'm sure there are other factors that go into why someone becomes a serial killer instead of just a killer or a violent person or even just an aggressive personality; but the reason why there are few women serial killers is women simply do not have the biological drive to commit violence that men do.
    Unless men in other countries have different levels of Testosterone, than we do in the US, that would not explain why there are more mass murderers in the US than in most other developed nations.
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    When it comes to mass shootings I don't think parents have the slightest interest in per capita.
    Right. But the question was "why there are more mass murderers (as in the mass shooting type) in the US than anywhere else". "More than anywhere else" makes sense only in proportion to population: of course there will be more mass murderers in Asia than in Cleveland. I say, the available stats do not allow to claim there are, actually, more mass murderers. Do I have to repeat myself ten times?

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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Unless men in other countries have different levels of Testosterone, than we do in the US, that would not explain why there are more mass murderers in the US than in most other developed nations.
    You asked why there are fewer female mass murders then men. The difference between men and women is explained by biological factors. The difference between American men and say French men is explained by a lot of factors.

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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    This is a much more serious distinction, if true.

    I suspect, however, that a lot of this staggering difference has to do with reporting and definitions. Russia, for example, never had "serial killers" before the collapse of the USSR - only "recidivist murderers". Law enforcement agencies in different countries have different resources and different methods - some compile databases of similar cases and profile suspects, some do not. Most perfectly happy to apprehend a murderer, and do not make any effort to screen through unsolved cases he could be also responsible for. In the USA, nailing a serial killer is the Nobel Prize for policemen and prosecutors. In Japan, it is a source of eternal shame for the community. And so forth.

    Another factor worth paying attention to is the frequency of involuntary treatment of mentally ill in different countries. (I remember reading about Italy being the only country in the EU that does not assess danger the patient may pose to others, only medical need). I certainly do not want to find a strong correlation there, but it's not always what we want...

    Can't find any stats right away, though.
    Yes - very good point: reporting and definitions . . . how is a serial killer defined? Now there's less difference between mass-murder and serial-killer. As well as simply catching such individuals - our ability to discover them has increased. Some numbers come from approaching things in a cold-case style: analyzing things from the past.

    Regarding the 'overall numbers' - those cover the last 12 decades (120 years or so) . . . so it would be 2000+ spread out over all that time.
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Do dolphins in some oceans kill more than those in other oceans? Because that is what is happening with people in different developed nations. If they don't, its not an apt analogy.
    Actually, yes. The phenomena has only been observed in the Atlantic. This being off the cost of Virginia and Scotland.
    The first clues arrived in 1997, when a succession of dead porpoises were washed up in the waters of Scotland's east coast and the shores of Virginia. Biologists found that the porpoises had died of broken ribs, damaged livers, and imploded lungs, which served as tell-tale signs of prolonged, focused attacks. Although the motives were unclear, the teeth marks discovered on the bodies were a sure-fire sign: the prime suspects of these murders were bottlenose dolphins.
    Read more at Bottlenose Dolphin: The Only Marine Animal that Kills for Fun
    Also odd, this from the first article I posted.
    Watching the films, Aberdeen marina biologist Dr Ben Wilson explains yet another shocking phenomenon - that the dolphins use their incredible ultra sound abilties to home in on the vital organs of their victims that will cause most damage.

    "The blows are carefully targeted," says Dr Wilson, who is a member of the Scottish Association for Marine Science. "And the attacks are sustained, sometimes up to 30 minutes.
    It's clearly murder.

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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    You asked why there are fewer female mass murders then men. The difference between men and women is explained by biological factors. The difference between American men and say French men is explained by a lot of factors.
    If the large number of mass murders are much higher for men than women in the US due just to biology, there would also be a large difference between men and women in other developed nations.
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Actually, yes. The phenomena has only been observed in the Atlantic. This being off the cost of Virginia and Scotland.'
    So that rules out a biological cause.


    Also odd, this from the first article I posted.

    It's clearly murder.
    What is about the Atlantic ocean make this happen only there?
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Because they're too busy in the kitchen to kill people.
    Awww you beat me to it

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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    It is a fact that women live longer than men.
    That's mainly do to occupational choices. More men are getting shot in military service or injured/killed in construction/machinist trades than women.

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