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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I posted this earlier:


    "Mass murder is defined as “the sudden, intentional
    killing of more than one person in the same location and at the
    same time, usually by a single person” (Palermo & Ross, 1999,
    p.8). Turvey (2008) notes that the problem of mass murders is
    not unique to the United States. However, Hamamoto (2002)
    argues that the United States produce most of the world’s mass
    murderers because of a “blow back” by civilians scripting
    violence in a hyper-militarised America which started with the
    increasing military adventures after World War II. Research on
    mass murder is relatively limited when compared to other
    forms of multiple homicide (Bowers, et al, 2010), yet several
    authors have identified descriptive characteristics, patterns, and
    typologies that differentiate mass murder from other forms of
    multiple murder and from murder in general (Fox & Levin,
    2012, Bowers, et al, 2010, Bartol & Bartol, 2011).


    The rich countries that have less mass murders than the US is from other studies that show that:
    "The U.S. has far more gun-related killings than any other developed country"
    Chart: The U.S. has far more gun-related killings than any other developed country
    Again you use correlation and a few windbags that have their own "academic study based" theories to advance. Clever use of "developed countries" to exclude all of the world except Europe proves nothing either. Do you seriously believe the China, Russia or many other totalitarian states release (advertise?) valid crime statistics? We both know that mass murder, by the gov't itself, is common in many "developed" countries, yet these "do not count" as mass murder in these la-la land "studies". Of course people with free access to guns will commit more "gun crime". Again, limitting mass murders even further to only "mass shootings" and only in these carefully selected countries can prove anything that you want it to. When commiting a crime, specfically murder, one uses the best tool to enhance their power that is available, in many cases that is a gun. During prohibition, when gangs armed with automatic weapons ruled the "speak easy" alcohol business, gun crime was at an all time high, yet let us forget that detail and concentrate on recent "mass shootings" since WWII, by insane morons, that occur a whopping 2 times per year, on average, in a nation with 300 million guns (in civilian hands) and 310 million people.
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Multiple chimps attacking a single chimp, is not mass murder, that is gang violence.
    I thought there were countless cases of one chimp killing many as well. Same too with dolphins. Seems our more intelligent animal friends kill each other often, seemingly for fun.
    Marine experts now believe that these displays of attacks on non-rival, non-predatory, peace-loving porpoises and, more shockingly, of dolphin infanticide, may have always taken place.
    It is only now, with dolphins' more human-friendly behaviour taking them closer to tourist boats and beaches, that the violence is being witnessed first hand. Until the shocking realisation, dolphin-watchers in America had believed they were watching the mammals at play with their young.
    Killer dolphins baffle marine experts - Telegraph

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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I thought there were countless cases of one chimp killing many as well. Same too with dolphins. Seems our more intelligent animal friends kill each other often, seemingly for fun.
    On that - what i think is wrong is what we *think* we know . . . we only classify dolphins as peaceful because *to us* that's what they are.
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    The US has produced over 2,000
    Italy is next with 100
    It goes down from there.
    This is a much more serious distinction, if true.

    I suspect, however, that a lot of this staggering difference has to do with reporting and definitions. Russia, for example, never had "serial killers" before the collapse of the USSR - only "recidivist murderers". Law enforcement agencies in different countries have different resources and different methods - some compile databases of similar cases and profile suspects, some do not. Most perfectly happy to apprehend a murderer, and do not make any effort to screen through unsolved cases he could be also responsible for. In the USA, nailing a serial killer is the Nobel Prize for policemen and prosecutors. In Japan, it is a source of eternal shame for the community. And so forth.

    Another factor worth paying attention to is the frequency of involuntary treatment of mentally ill in different countries. (I remember reading about Italy being the only country in the EU that does not assess danger the patient may pose to others, only medical need). I certainly do not want to find a strong correlation there, but it's not always what we want...

    Can't find any stats right away, though.

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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Is it because males do not handle social rejection as well as females?

    Are males just more violent than females?

    Or other, an please explain;

    Thanks!
    Testostorone. Men naturally have ~10x as much of it as women do. Its quite well documented that when individuals take exogenous androgens, they are more prone to showing aggressive and/or violent behavior. I'm sure there are other factors that go into why someone becomes a serial killer instead of just a killer or a violent person or even just an aggressive personality; but the reason why there are few women serial killers is women simply do not have the biological drive to commit violence that men do.

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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I thought there were countless cases of one chimp killing many as well. Same too with dolphins. Seems our more intelligent animal friends kill each other often, seemingly for fun.
    Do dolphins in some oceans kill more than those in other oceans? Because that is what is happening with people in different developed nations. If they don't, its not an apt analogy.
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Again you use correlation and a few windbags that have their own "academic study based" theories to advance. Clever use of "developed countries" to exclude all of the world except Europe proves nothing either. Do you seriously believe the China, Russia or many other totalitarian states release (advertise?) valid crime statistics? We both know that mass murder, by the gov't itself, is common in many "developed" countries, yet these "do not count" as mass murder in these la-la land "studies". Of course people with free access to guns will commit more "gun crime". Again, limitting mass murders even further to only "mass shootings" and only in these carefully selected countries can prove anything that you want it to. When commiting a crime, specfically murder, one uses the best tool to enhance their power that is available, in many cases that is a gun. During prohibition, when gangs armed with automatic weapons ruled the "speak easy" alcohol business, gun crime was at an all time high, yet let us forget that detail and concentrate on recent "mass shootings" since WWII, by insane morons, that occur a whopping 2 times per year, on average, in a nation with 300 million guns (in civilian hands) and 310 million people.
    Baloney!..........
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Baloney!..........
    Nice argument! I will double down with salami!
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Please tell me you are joking.

    Finland: 5 million people.
    USA: 315 million people.

    When we are talking about America supposedly having more mass shootings than other countries - we surely mean the rate, per capita, right?

    When it comes to mass shootings I don't think parents have the slightest interest in per capita. How many intentional shootings does Finland have per capita?
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Nice argument! I will double down with salami!
    Its just as well substantiated as your opinion was!
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