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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That's not true.
    Most victims of male murder, are other males.
    I am not quite prepared to say that I stand corrected, but I will admit that in western democracies what you say appears to be correct. That said, from what I can understand, in many countries the differential is considerably less than in the US .
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    If that were the case, then the example of the US (which you hold up) would be a problematic data point for you.
    How do you figure that, what other rich nations have higher incidence of mass murders than the US?
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    I am not quite prepared to say that I stand corrected, but I will admit that in western democracies what you say appears to be correct. That said, from what I can understand, in many countries the differential is considerably less than in the US .
    Strictly speaking of murder, not necessarily mass murder.
    Most victims are male.

    In mass murder, there tend to be more female victims, but mass murders aren't as prevalent as people think.
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    How do you figure that, what other rich nations have higher incidence of mass murders than the US?
    I don't dismiss your theory on incidents of mass murder - but rather on your notion that the US is a culture of hegemonic masculinity in comparison with other cultures. Most cultures are more male-dominant than our own, Western one.

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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    They have greater access to the tools for killing.
    I wouldn't make said tools illegal though, if that's what you're getting at.

    Are saying more guns lead to more mass murders? And you have ruled out learned behavior based on culture on what basis?
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Are saying more guns lead to more mass murders? And you have ruled out learned behavior based on culture on what basis?
    I'm saying that access to the tools can increase that incidence of mass murders.
    I don't think it's learned behavior that causes mass murder.

    That paper you linked doesn't say so either.
    I'm still reading it though.
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I don't dismiss your theory on incidents of mass murder - but rather on your notion that the US is a culture of hegemonic masculinity in comparison with other cultures. Most cultures are more male-dominant than our own, Western one.
    Which other rich nations are more militaristic than the US? Which rich nations have started more wars against other countries than the US?
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Which other rich nations are more militaristic than the US? Which rich nations have started more wars against other countries than the US?
    Now you are shifting goal posts from individual incidents of mass-murder to national warfare. However, the answer is: lots. Britain, for example. China for another. Japan less so, but France and don't even get me started on Italy .

    But hey, don't sell us short - we're young .

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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Are saying more guns lead to more mass murders? And you have ruled out learned behavior based on culture on what basis?
    Just finalizing things from the paper.
    It seems that they've identified the wrong thing which encourages/causes mass murder.

    To me it seems like they think that having control over ones life is inherently masculine, but women too like having control over their lives.
    To me, the primary cause of mass murder, just from reading this paper is a temporary psychotic episode.
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    Re: Why are there so few female mass murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Is it because males do not handle social rejection as well as females?

    Are males just more violent than females?

    Or other, an please explain;

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    feeling powerless.

    males are brought up to believe that they should be in control. when they aren't, some will look for someone to blame. often it will be family members, including their partner (especially if she has rejected him), or people who have, by their actions, tarnished the reputation of the killer - at least according to the killer. if this develops into an obsession (which may be more likely with those who already are showing some forms of mental illness) it can become extremely dangerous, especially if they have access to weapons.

    this can account for higher suicide rates in males as well.

    it is more likely that men who live in a society which promotes a "culture of honour" around masculinity will direct their anger outwards towards others.

    why do some of these killers shoot soft targets?

    that may be a measure of how powerless they feel in some cases - or, as in the case of anders Breivik as an example, his ideology allowed him to argue that he was doing society a favour by exterminating those who subscribed to a different view of the world.
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