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Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?


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Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

You realize that if DOMA is overturned, then the Pentagon will have to do just those things? And that is likely to happen...why, later this year.

All sources that don't support his opinion are biased, not worth the further debate. He will simply balk everything biased liberalism which he doesn't after with.
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

Yeah, but in all honesty you accurately measuring a system without bias hasn't really been well demonstrated at this point. So I'll file your opinion under "Madame Cleo".

That won't stop me my left wing friend......I pray for my niece every night she has and incurable eye problem she can on see straight ahead.............I think my prayers are helping her because she has been getting better.
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

Well you'd need to repeal DOMA for that and hopefully that will come sooner rather than later.

It must reall bug you that your hero "Wille" Clinton signed the DOMA. You still have 32 states with constitutions protecting marriage......a lot don't even want to give you civil unions.
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

Wrong again oh lying one. I posted reasonably current, peer reviewed research. You have posted....nothing but lies, insults and evasions. You must be proud.

1989 and 94?:lamo
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

Well you'd need to repeal DOMA for that and hopefully that will come sooner rather than later.

Did you every ask yourself this question: What kind of a people enacts a law like DOMA in the first place ?...................
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

That is my opinion but what you do in the privacy of your bedroom I could care less.......Just don' tell me about it.

Hasn't stopped you from telling everyone here about your sexual parades. Ever heard what's good for the goose is good for the gandor? Or is it just more NP hypocrisy to note.
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

It must reall bug you that your hero "Wille" Clinton signed the DOMA. You still have 32 states with constitutions protecting marriage......a lot don't even want to give you civil unions.

I think Bill Clinton was a good president. I don't think that everything he did was right though nor do I think that about any other president. I just hope people will come to realize that love between adults no matter what their gender is a natural thing and give these people the rights they deserve. 1,500 animal species practice homosexuality
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

Did you every ask yourself this question: What kind of a people enacts a law like DOMA in the first place ?...................

I do. It was a diferent time, but nonethless it was wrong.
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

It must reall bug you that your hero "Wille" Clinton signed the DOMA. You still have 32 states with constitutions protecting marriage......a lot don't even want to give you civil unions.

Those won't mean diddley squat when the USSC strikes down bans on gay marriage in a couple of months. Roberts has already demonstrated that he is concerned about his legacy and he doesn't want to be on the wrong side of history. I suspect it will be a 6-3 decision with only the right-wing activists Alito, Scalia and the braindead Thomas in opposition.
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

I do. It was a diferent time, but nonethless it was wrong.

Personally, "my fellow Americans" lost me with DADT. arguably the single stupidest action the human race has ever done....................
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

Personally, "my fellow Americans" lost me with DADT. arguably the single stupidest action the human race has ever done....................

Well it's gone now and it's left to the history books. Soon DOMA will be on the same path.
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

1989 and 94?:lamo

When was your research from exactly? Isn't it easy to bitch about other peoples sources when you refuse to source any of your claims? Do you think no one notices?
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

Personally, "my fellow Americans" lost me with DADT. arguably the single stupidest action the human race has ever done....................

I consider it testing the waters, working within likely parameters towards something better. When it happened, my unit was like 'whatever'. We had our suspicions but couldn't care as long as they pulled their weight. Aside from the bonus of new "hey, buddy, don't tell" jokes, I don't think it impacted us at all.
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

Personally, "... DADT. arguably the single stupidest action the human race has ever done....................
why do you say that?
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

Did you every ask yourself this question: What kind of a people enacts a law like DOMA in the first place ?...................

Your hero Willie Clinton signed it into law with around 85 senators.
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

Well it's gone now and it's left to the history books. Soon DOMA will be on the same path.

My point is that if the people here are that stupid in the first place, then I can't help them, and why would I want to ?......................
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

why do you say that?

Ah, Bubba, leaving the ban on gays in the military prior to DADT would have been lower on the cognitive dissonance scale than DADT......................
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

I never attacked your personal beliefs, I don't even know what they are. I will always attack the belief that gay men molest boys, because that is a bigoted fascist belief. I will attack that belief until its gone. But I never said anything about your faith. I simply stated that the current translation of the Bible isn't complete. If you feel that is an attack on your faith, perhaps you can explain why.

Chuck Taylors? My dad write those as a boy, his dad wore those as a boy. But I frankly don't care how old you think I am. I am parenting a14 year old boy with my husband.

1) Wouldn't a man have to be gay if he molested a boy? The boy is the same sex as him correct? Or are we talking openly gay?
2) You attacked my right to raise my son the way I see fit. Just the same as others on this thread have.
3) No matter what you say, I'll never believe you are an adult with any sort of life experience. So we've reached a impasse with this and it's better to lay it to rest.
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

When was your research from exactly? Isn't it easy to bitch about other peoples sources when you refuse to source any of your claims? Do you think no one notices?

Forget him, the worst thing that could be done to the deluded is to not feed their delusion. He will never see his hypocrisy, he isn't a rational thinker. you disagree your a liberal, no matter what. there's no sense in talking to someone like that.
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

My point is that if the people here are that stupid in the first place, then I can't help them, and why would I want to ?......................

Because it is better than no effort at all. As time will go on people will hopefully become fully aware of these issues and the context of them. What we can do to help that is bring it to people's attention and answer the challenges that are brought to such issues.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

I agree with MarineTpartier to some extent. I'm not very religious, but if I were a father, I have the right to do my best to not expose my son(s) to things I don't believe in. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, and I think it's wrong to get outraged at parents who do so, because they don't conform to your more secularized beliefs. People have the right to not be ironically bullied into believing the seemingly liberal mantra of faiiirness and tolerance. Some people are shameless in that they won't stop until they've bullied everyone else into conforming with their beliefs. I don't bully and demonize liberals into believing that homosexual acts are unnatural and disgusting, so I'd appreciate in turn that those certain liberals show the same respect to me.

Thanks Wake.
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

Ah, Bubba, leaving the ban on gays in the military prior to DADT would have been lower on the cognitive dissonance scale than DADT......................
... so 2nd stupidest then?
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

Forget him, the worst thing that could be done to the deluded is to not feed their delusion. He will never see his hypocrisy, he isn't a rational thinker. you disagree your a liberal, no matter what. there's no sense in talking to someone like that.

I'm going to stand up for NP. As deluded and misguided as I think he is he is an honest person.
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

... so 2nd stupidest then?

No. An outright ban at least made sense in the "logic" of opponents of lifting the ban; Asking people to never come clean about themselves is legalizing a certain degreee of criminality in the the name of "morality".................
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

1) Wouldn't a man have to be gay if he molested a boy? The boy is the same sex as him correct? Or are we talking openly gay?
2) You attacked my right to raise my son the way I see fit. Just the same as others on this thread have.
3) No matter what you say, I'll never believe you are an adult with any sort of life experience. So we've reached a impasse with this and it's better to lay it to rest.

1) most men who molest boys, are heterosexual, meaning they have girlfriends or wives, and regularly engage in heterosexual sex.
2) no I didn't, you attacked my interpretation of biblical text.
3) I don't care.

4) it's simple, I don't understand your fear.

5) I never attacked you, I said what I read out of scripture. and you felt as though I attacked your faith, I didn't, prior to the accusations I didn't know you existed I don't know your faith, not that it matters to me, you took a different interpretation of biblical texts personally. I am sorry that you I thought I was attacking your faith, I wasn't.

I was wrong to respond to your attack with a counter attack. it's none of my business how you rinse your son, except you made it my business when you posted it here. if you want the gays to shut up and go away, lead by
I question what you're afraid of, it seems reasonable, being that I have a young man in my custody that is gay. he has been beat up by people who are scared of him. you seem to harbor that same fear, lesser or more controlled. I just want to understand why.

again I'm sorry that I offended you.
 
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