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Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?


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Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Honestly, I think it's very poor debate to tell someone they can't belong to x religion or denomination because of how they live. If someone says they have Catholic faith then they are Catholic. You can think they are wrong in their theology and argue that, but it's poor form to say that someone else isn't what they claim to be because you disagree on an issue.

I know 2 ex gay Christians that struggle with same sex attractions. They are Christian.

I know an openly gay Mormon, I'm not going to say that he isn't a Mormon because he is gay and the Mormon church tends to be pretty strong against homosexuality.

I know a gay Evangelical Christian. I would never say that he isn't an Evangelical Christian because he lives an openly homosexual lifestyle.

I can have opinions about their theology and if they are right or wrong, but I would never disrespect them and go so low as to tell them they aren't Christians, Mormons, or anything else.

As I have said over and over again, gays can be members of the Catholic Church we are taught to hate the sin but love the sinner and sex outside of marriage is a mortal sin whether your straight or gay. The church has certain requirements......You are required to confess your sins unless you don't have any and the only person that fits that description is Jesus Christ. You are required to attend mass on Sundays and holy days.....If you don't then its a mortal sin. Its not easy to be a Catholic but those are the facts.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

yet I haven't been, so it's good you're absolutely wrong.

You don't follow the precepts of the church.....You have been but you don't know it.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

As I have said over and over again, gays can be members of the Catholic Church we are taught to hate the sin but love the sinner and sex outside of marriage is a mortal sin whether your straight or gay. The church has certain requirements......You are required to confess your sins unless you don't have any and the only person that fits that description is Jesus Christ. You are required to attend mass on Sundays and holy days.....If you don't then its a mortal sin. Its not easy to be a Catholic but those are the facts.

So how you coming on supporting your claims with sources NP? Still trying to dodge, hoping no one realizes you posted lies?
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

It is at best laughable that as we age we suddently find religion and like a student cram studying for a final we become very intense in going to church.

And all that stuff we did when we were young is just swept underneath the carpet.

Cram,, cram,, cram.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Nope, you are not excommunicated for that, sorry.

Why would you say that.......Do you have any idea how many Mortal sins you have on your soul?
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

So how you coming on supporting your claims with sources NP? Still trying to dodge, hoping no one realizes you posted lies?

knowledge cannot be beaten by ignorance, some people refuse to allow knowledge to beat there ignorance.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

It is at best laughable that as we age we suddently find religion and like a student cram studying for a final we become very intense in going to church.

And all that stuff we did when we were young is just swept underneath the carpet.

Cram,, cram,, cram.

If that is for me I was baptized Catholic in my first year of life......I also attended Catholic School for 12 years...........Its true I was much more Liberal when I was young but as I grew older and wiser I became much more Conservative especially after I married and had a family......
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

As far as I know, none.

when is the last time you went to mass, went to confession, slept with your boyfriend?
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

when is the last time you went to mass, went to confession, slept with your boyfriend?

I don't attend mass often, I confess every day, I don't have a boyfriend, I have a husband.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

I don't attend mass often, I confess every day, I don't have a boyfriend, I have a husband.

You have to confess to a catholic priest if your catholic, you have to attend mass every sunday and holy day...The Catholic Chrch does not recognize gay marriage so you lose on all accounts.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

You have to confess to a catholic priest if your catholic, you have to attend mass every sunday and holy day...The Catholic Chrch does not recognize gay marriage so you lose on all accounts.

Is there some injunction in your religion against judging others?
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Is there some injunction in your religion against judging others?

Yes there is, I judge no one I just know the precepts of the Catholic Church.......We will all be taken to task on Jugment Day by God.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

You have to confess to a catholic priest if your catholic, you have to attend mass every sunday and holy day...The Catholic Chrch does not recognize gay marriage so you lose on all accounts.

I don't really care, Biblically speaking I am married, no biblical support for having to confess to a priest.

And of course the church will say its a sin to skip church, its bad for business if you can do that. The Catholic church doesn't get to decide what sin is, frankly its going against the Bible to make up things that are sins. If I were excommunicated it wouldn't worry me, its an anti Christian organization if it thinks it can pretend to be God.

I have not been excommunicated (an anti-Christ practice), so I am still Catholic.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Haven't read... and won't... the entire thread, but has anybody asked the obvious question: What difference does it make considering they were still there when they weren't open about it?
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Yes there is, I judge no one I just know the precepts of the Catholic Church.......We will all be taken to task on Jugment Day by God.

Except that once confirmed you are always Catholic. You don't know squat.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Except that once confirmed you are always Catholic. You don't know squat.

Like I said we will find out on judgment day and I sure has hell would not want to be you.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Is there some injunction in your religion against judging others?

He isn't any thing special, the Vatican decides who is Catholic and who is not, I haven't revcived a notice of excommunication, so everything he says is hogwash.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Except that once confirmed you are always Catholic. You don't know squat.

Just curious, were you baptized because that is when you become a Catholic.........Have you received your first communion? You have to do that prior to Confirmation.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

He isn't any thing special, the Vatican decides who is Catholic and who is not, I haven't revcived a notice of excommunication, so everything he says is hogwash.

ROTFLMAO:lamo
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

If that is for me I was baptized Catholic in my first year of life......I also attended Catholic School for 12 years...........Its true I was much more Liberal when I was young but as I grew older and wiser I became much more Conservative especially after I married and had a family......

That is a crap out.

They always try to dismiss their sinful years as young and liberal but now you are wiser and conservative all of sudden you are cramming that bible.

Cut to the chase.
You become older and are less marketable to the sex you are attracted to and also have a lessen sex drive thus you aren't out chasing tail. This has nothing to do with becoming wiser and conservative.
One also knows there are less sand in their hourglass of life so no time like now to start cramming religion.

The sins you committed when young are your sins. You can't blame your sins on political lean , alcohol, or drugs. It is called self responsibility.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Like I said we will find out on judgment day and I sure has hell would not want to be you.

Finely you yield to the authority, only God can judge my worthiness, frankly I wouldn't want to be you ever.

The Catholic church, with its demonic practice of excommunication, isn't an organization I would hold in high esteem when discussing what is righteous. So your silliness is not the slightest concern of mine.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Just curious, were you baptized because that is when you become a Catholic.........Have you received your first communion? You have to do that prior to Confirmation.

First Communion check, baptism check, so confirmation check.
 
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