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Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?

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Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

Somerville said:
Sorry Chris, but what does average age of the population have to do with notions about the age of consent?




Ah, maybe if you had linked to the page you are quoting from, it would have answered my question

Median Age of First Marriage

However, the one - median age of first marriage - does not equate in any shape, fashion or form with the prevalence of paedophilia in the late 19th Century. The changes in "age of consent laws" came about because efforts to reduce the surprising numbers of those we call children today who were active in prostitution during much of the Victorian Era.


Also "median" means half of all marriages were with people of less than the ages posted, with no bottom number provided.
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It's grossly exaggerated that people married children.

The age of marriage :: Life and Times :: Internet Shakespeare Editions
 
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ChrisL said:
It's grossly exaggerated that people married children.

The age of marriage :: Life and Times :: Internet Shakespeare Editions
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We are talking past each other

You bring up marriage and my point concerns the "age of consent" which had something to do with marriage but more to do with what age was considered acceptable for sex in the late 19th Century. Which goes back to the whole paedophilia thing, because 150 years ago, an adult male having sex with a child of 12 or 13 was considered acceptable - today it is not. Today we know a lot more about the psychological effects of such sexual encounters and realise just how negative such experiences can be on a person as they grow up, or don't in some cases.

More on the crusade to increase the age of consent in Victorian England
Child prostitutes: How the age of consent was raised to 16
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

Can we stay on topic? Thanks
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

wolfie said:
I just wouldn't send them to a camp where their overseers were gay...

Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle from pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two. This is because, by definition, male homosexuals are sexually attracted to other males.

But if one of my sons told me he was gay..he would get my full support..it would be his choice..not an indoctrination..
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What you said here makes no sense. Just because someone is attracted to someone of the same sex, does not mean that they are attracted to children.

Seriously, where do people come up with these crazy ****ing ideas?
 
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wolfie said:
Yes..yes..I do..
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Because they may not be interested in what the girl scouts do and may be more interested in what the boy scouts do.
 
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Your Star said:
What you said here makes no sense. Just because someone is attracted to someone of the same sex, does not mean that they are attracted to children.

Seriously, where do people come up with these crazy ****ing ideas?
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They are not crazy and a lot of people, including me agree with Wolfie.
 
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Navy Pride said:
They are not crazy and a lot of people, including me agree with Wolfie.
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That just means alot of people have a crazy wrong belief. No matter how many people believe a wrong thing, it will still be wrong. Lots of research has been done on the subject, and it clearly shows that pedophilia has exactly jack **** to do with homosexuality.
 
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Navy Pride said:
They are not crazy and a lot of people, including me agree with Wolfie.
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Yes, it looks like it is just under 20% who agree with you. That's not bad. There are more who are wrong on most issues.
 
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Redress said:
That just means alot of people have a crazy wrong belief. No matter how many people believe a wrong thing, it will still be wrong. Lots of research has been done on the subject, and it clearly shows that pedophilia has exactly jack **** to do with homosexuality.
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There are liberal studies that say that and just as many fair studies that say the opposite. I believe it for the simple fact that gay pedophiles only go after male children.......They have zero interest in females....If a male pedophile abuses a female its because he is BI.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Yes, it looks like it is just under 20% who agree with you. That's not bad. There are more who are wrong on most issues.
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In DP that is true because it is so bias left, not in the real world though.
 
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Navy Pride said:
In DP that is true because it is so bias left, not in the real world though.
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How is homosexuality a right vs left issue?
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

Navy Pride said:
There are liberal studies that say that and just as many fair studies that say the opposite. I believe it for the simple fact that gay pedophiles only go after male children.......They have zero interest in females....If a male pedophile abuses a female its because he is BI.
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No there are not NP. Lets see these studies you claim. Bet you can't show them.
 
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Navy Pride said:
In DP that is true because it is so bias left, not in the real world though.
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LoLz...
 
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Dittohead not! said:
How is homosexuality a right vs left issue?
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Most Liberals don't really care about morals and could care less if this country goes hell in a handbasket on the issue......
 
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Redress said:
No there are not NP. Lets see these studies you claim. Bet you can't show them.
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Lets see your first you brought it up. and not some far left study please.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Most Liberals don't really care about morals and could care less if this country goes hell in a handbasket on the issue......
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So, accepting the fact that some people are born homosexual is sending the country to Hell in a handbasket, being born homosexual is immoral, and only "liberals", which is synonymous with "the left" is for equal rights for gays.

Can that really be your opinion? In the 21st. century?

To me, "liberal" or "left" describes someone who is in favor of a powerful central government. Somehow, I fail to see the connection between a powerful central government and acceptance of gays for who they are.
 
Re: d you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

Pedophilia is pedophilia. Just because a guy may be attracted to other guys or a girl to other girls doesn't mean they view pre-pubescent children of their same sex as attractive anymore so than a straight male finds a young pre-pubescent girl attractive. Pedophilia is its own separate thing.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Are children raised by gay parents more likely to be gay themselves?

What the Science Says
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I see three problems with this citation:

(1) It is composed by a partisan who is apparently not a scientist.
(2) It provides a broken link to its own citation.
(3) It claims that ' "100% of children with gay parents reported that they "were happy with their gender and had no wish to be a member of the opposite sex" '. In other words there is zero variation, and a zero-variation result is difficult to believe no matter how well qualified the investigator might be.

Now, I did not miss this other claim from the same paragraph as (3): "Children with queer parents also demonstrated no greater tendency toward gender-atypical behaviors." I would like to see documentaion for this written by a scientific investigator. If it is an actual result of rigorous scientific study, and if is successfully replicated, then it would provide very strong evidence for a "hard-wired" genetic explanation for homosexuality, as opposed to a social-cultural explanation.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
So, accepting the fact that some people are born homosexual is sending the country to Hell in a handbasket, being born homosexual is immoral, and only "liberals", which is synonymous with "the left" is for equal rights for gays.

Can that really be your opinion? In the 21st. century?

To me, "liberal" or "left" describes someone who is in favor of a powerful central government. Somehow, I fail to see the connection between a powerful central government and acceptance of gays for who they are.
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You need to go back and read the thread.......I have explained my position over and over again.
 
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digsbe said:
Pedophilia is pedophilia. Just because a guy may be attracted to other guys or a girl to other girls doesn't mean they view pre-pubescent children of their same sex as attractive anymore so than a straight male finds a young pre-pubescent girl attractive. Pedophilia is its own separate thing.
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Most gays are not pedophiles but some are and male gay pedophiles are attracted to young boys.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Most gays are not pedophiles but some are and male gay pedophiles are attracted to young boys.
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Not true, and not supported by the evidence. How about actually trying to link to some documentation for all these claims you are making?
 
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Navy Pride said:
wow 1989 and 1994 those are a little old and much has been learned about homosexuality and pedophilia since then.
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So when are your sources from? Come on NP, I put up, now it's your turn.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Most gays are not pedophiles but some are and male gay pedophiles are attracted to young boys.
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And some straight people are pedophiles too. I don't really think there is a higher instance among homosexuals. As I said, pedophilia is its own separate thing.
 
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