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Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?

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Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

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ChrisL said:
And how would you know if the boys are gay or not?
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I personally think it would be better if boys that were gay we're open about it. because of the keep it to themselves other boys wouldn't know, most heterosexual boys will react a little differently to playful advances from an openly gay boy verses a closeted gay boy.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
I personally think it would be better if boys that were gay we're open about it. because of the keep it to themselves other boys wouldn't know, most heterosexual boys will react a little differently to playful advances from an openly gay boy verses a closeted gay boy.
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You mean to avoid any confusion? I'm not sure what you're saying here. Playful advances?
 
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I don't care if there are openly gay members on staff or serving, but honestly I wouldn't want my adolescent male children sleeping with or sharing bathroom/shower facilities with a homosexual male anymore than I would want my adolescent daughter to room or share bathroom/shower facilities with a straight male. Openly gay or not, there should be boundaries.
 
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ChrisL said:
You mean to avoid any confusion? I'm not sure what you're saying here. Playful advances?
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I work with youth, particularly Boy Scouts. they tend to mess around in a joking fashion in a mildly sexual or flirtatious manner. psychologically speaking this is referred to as experimentation, particularly sexual experimentation. this behavior is normally done as part of a normal boys development. it seems that since the taboo is fading away, boys don't have such a hard time in this level of sexual development, expressing themselves. I'm sure it is also done as a way for boys to identify themselves is gay straight or bi sexual.

I am raising a boy who is openly gay he's almost 15, he has friends both boys and girls, girls experiment with him because they know it's not going to lead to anything else. the boys don't.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
I work with youth, particularly Boy Scouts. they tend to mess around in a joking fashion in a mildly sexual or flirtatious manner. psychologically speaking this is referred to as experimentation, particularly sexual experimentation. this behavior is normally done as part of a normal boys development. it seems that since the taboo is fading away, boys don't have such a hard time in this level of sexual development, expressing themselves. I'm sure it is also done as a way for boys to identify themselves is gay straight or bi sexual.

I am raising a boy who is openly gay he's almost 15, he has friends both boys and girls, girls experiment with him because they know it's not going to lead to anything else. the boys don't.
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Well, I don't know if I believe all that, but :shrug: I think there are probably many straight boys that probably don't want to be touched or "played with sexually" by gay boys, and that it would tend to make them feel uncomfortable regardless if they knew whether or not someone was straight or gay.

Besides, I thought your sexuality wasn't something that you "decided." :confused:
 
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digsbe said:
I don't care if there are openly gay members on staff or serving, but honestly I wouldn't want my adolescent male children sleeping with or sharing bathroom/shower facilities with a homosexual male anymore than I would want my adolescent daughter to room or share bathroom/shower facilities with a straight male. Openly gay or not, there should be boundaries.
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I actually agree with this, email who was a youth in Boy Scouts and was attracted to males (not openly) I always worry about going into the shower. how often times embarrassing reaction will occur. it was very difficult to hide that. this far is tent mates and bunk mates. I had a male friend growing up we used to sleep over at one anothers homes, as kids often do, we slept in the same bed, nothing slightly sexual between us. I was his best man, and his baby's God father.
 
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ChrisL said:
Well, I don't know if I believe all that, but :shrug: I think there are probably many straight boys that probably don't want to be touched or "played with sexually" by gay boys, and that it would tend to make them feel uncomfortable regardless if they knew whether or not someone was straight or gay.

Besides, I thought your sexuality wasn't something that you "decided." :confused:
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there are a lot of boys that don't do that, I'd say about 5050, but it is part of adolescent male behavior. This was my area of study while in my masters program.

It isn't necessarily something you decide, that was a poor choice of words, but often times it is difficult to figure out. especially with the taboos still in place.
 
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ChrisL said:
Well, I don't know if I believe all that, but :shrug: I think there are probably many straight boys that probably don't want to be touched or "played with sexually" by gay boys, and that it would tend to make them feel uncomfortable regardless if they knew whether or not someone was straight or gay.

Besides, I thought your sexuality wasn't something that you "decided." :confused:
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If you would like to have a source, this one is decent.

The Development of Adolescent Sexuality - Child Development Theory: Adolescence
 
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The bottom line is.....if your kid belongs to boy scouts/girl scouts or any other similar type organization....like it or not, they are going to be going to camp with gay kids and there are likely to be gay counselors present.
The only question is, is as a parent would you rather have someone be open and honest about it....or hide it so that you don't know. For some...pulling the wool over their eyes and pretending that ignorance is bliss is their way of dealing with it, because they can pretend that their utopian view of the world exists outside of their mind. For others, honesty is the best policy.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
If you would like to have a source, this one is decent.

The Development of Adolescent Sexuality - Child Development Theory: Adolescence
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I don't need to read a study. I WAS an adolescent once! :lol:

The way boys and girls play really has nothing to do with sex. They play like that because they are innocent and don't think about such things BEING sexual. They are simply playing. It's all about the fun.
 
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ChrisL said:
I don't need to read a study. I WAS an adolescent once! :lol:

The way boys and girls play really has nothing to do with sex. They play like that because they are innocent and don't think about such things BEING sexual. They are simply playing. It's all about the fun.
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The kids I was talking about are.11 and older. 11 they are definitely aware of what sex is
 
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CLAX1911 said:
The kids I was talking about are.11 and older. 11 they are definitely aware of what sex is
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That doesn't mean they're playing has anything to do with sex or sexuality.
 
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ChrisL said:
That doesn't mean they're playing has anything to do with sex or sexuality.
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Sometimes it is suggestive, and the intent isn't for sexual gratification but exploration. As a person that works with youth in many ways, I have gone through many trainings, they always say this is something to expect among boys.
 
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TheGirlNextDoor said:
A "gay situation"?? So anywhere that may have gay people, would be a gay situation!?

If this wasn't what you meant, please correct me....
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I just wouldn't send them to a camp where their overseers were gay...

Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle from pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two. This is because, by definition, male homosexuals are sexually attracted to other males.

But if one of my sons told me he was gay..he would get my full support..it would be his choice..not an indoctrination..
 
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wolfie said:
I just wouldn't send them to a camp where their overseers were gay...

Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle from pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two. This is because, by definition, male homosexuals are sexually attracted to other males.

But if one of my sons told me he was gay..he would get my full support..it would be his choice..not an indoctrination..
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It's good that you are an accepting mother but you really do need to do a bit more research on paedophilia. It is the age of the victim that is most important to the predator, not the gender.
 
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Somerville said:
It's good that you are an accepting mother but you really do need to do a bit more research on paedophilia. It is the age of the victim that is most important to the predator, not the gender.
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The evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls.

(1) men are almost always the perpetrator ...

(2) up to one-third or more of child sex abuse cases are committed against boys..

(3) less than three percent of the population are homosexuals. Thus, a tiny percentage of the population (homosexual men), commit one-third or more of the cases of child sexual molestation.
 
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wolfie said:
The evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls.

(1) men are almost always the perpetrator ...

(2) up to one-third or more of child sex abuse cases are committed against boys..

(3) less than three percent of the population are homosexuals. Thus, a tiny percentage of the population (homosexual men), commit one-third or more of the cases of child sexual molestation.
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Where's your link?
 
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wolfie said:
The evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls.

(1) men are almost always the perpetrator ...

(2) up to one-third or more of child sex abuse cases are committed against boys..

(3) less than three percent of the population are homosexuals. Thus, a tiny percentage of the population (homosexual men), commit one-third or more of the cases of child sexual molestation.
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Yeah, you're going to need to back all this up.
 
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wolfie said:
Here...

Report: Pedophilia more common among ‘gays’
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Lol! WND? You should really learn to post better source material, such as actual studies. You have two people making allegations that are NOT backed by any kind of actual statistics. Data from the FBI refutes these claims.

And this is from your own link:

ay Heavener, spokesman for PFLAG – Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays, counters that federal crime data refute claims that homosexuals molest children at higher rates than heterosexuals.

“According to data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), this claim is false,” he told WND by e-mail. “The gay and lesbian community calls into question any dubious research which flies in the face of our own experience.”

And Gary Schoener, a clinical psychologist who has been diagnosing and treating clergy abuse for 28 years, told Salon.com, “There are far more heterosexual cases than homosexual.”
 
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Here is an article that is based on the actual facts.

Pedophilia and Child Sexual Molestation

Pedophilic fantasy remains relatively fixed and shows only minor variations over a lifetime. Most child molestations by Pedophiles involve genital fondling or oral-genital sex. Offenders report that when they touch a child, most (60%) of the victims are boys. In contrast, 99% of individuals who window-peep or expose themselves do so against girls. 95% of known Pedophiles are heterosexual and 50% have consumed alcohol to excess at the time of the incident. A significant number of Pedophiles simultaneously, or have previously been, involved in genital exposure (Exhibitionism), peeping (Voyeurism), or rape.
 
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X Factor said:
Yeah, you're going to need to back all this up.
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she thinks child molestation is about sex she doesn't understand what she's talking about. she can't back it up.
 
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winston53660 said:
Well if it is in World Nut Dailey it must be true:roll:
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Well Rick Santorum is their most Liberal writer.
 
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