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Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?

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Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

CLAX1911 said:
Most society actually does agree with her. It's only a matter of time before churches follow suit, as they always do.
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my sons and daughters and all their friends don't agree with you and they are in their twenties..:confused:
 
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CLAX1911 said:
Most society actually does agree with her. It's only a matter of time before churches follow suit, as they always do.
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Not really. members might, but the churches themselves do not follow suit so readily....
 
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Navy Pride said:
my sons and daughters and all their friends don't agree with you and they are in their twenties..:confused:
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What is that like 20 people all brainwashed to fear gay people by you? That isn't society, there are approx 299,999,975 people that make up society so I stand by my statement
 
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Fisher said:
Not really. members might, but the churches themselves do not follow suit so readily....
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Yeah they do, they have to otherwise they are lost in obscurity.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
Most society actually does agree with her. It's only a matter of time before churches follow suit, as they always do.
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Yep, either the majority of churches will adapt, and become open, and confirming, or membership will wain. I'm so thankful I was born when I was, I can't imagine the life I would have had if I was born 40 years ago.
 
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Navy Pride said:
The BS pledge says "Morally Straight" that is good enough for me.
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Navy I finally agree with you! It is a BS pledge that equates morally straight with someone's sexuality. I guess I was taught to be morally straight has far more to do with how I conduct myself while standing up with people than when laying down, ahhhh or other positions. ;)

I always figured as long as I avoided messing with someone in a committed relationship it's all good.

Straight means far more than what you use it for.
 
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Your Star said:
Yep, either the majority of churches will adapt, and become open, and confirming, or membership will wain. I'm so thankful I was born when I was, I can't imagine the life I would have had if I was born 40 years ago.
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I don't know why the churches are even consulted on morality, they are guilty of some abhorrent acts
 
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CLAX1911 said:
I don't know why the churches are even consulted on morality, they are guilty of some abhorrent acts
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It's why I don't go to church, I'm rather religious, but I don't want organized religion to be a part of my life.
 
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Your Star said:
It's why I don't go to church, I'm rather religious, but I don't want organized religion to be a part of my life.
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I don't either, lest I get tied up in being Catholic verses a follower of God.
 
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Your Star said:
How is this a bait question? Because gay people exist, and we aren't going away, nor should our lives be negatively effect because some people think how we were born is wrong. You say you don't want your kid around gay people who aren't in the closet, but in order for that to be, then they have to lie, and you said you don't want your kids around liars either. So which would you rather have, them being around gay people, or liars? Or will you stop this nonsense about being scared of gay people? Because we don't harm children, and are normal ****ing people, and if you can't see that, well that is your problem.
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It's a bait question because you know as well as I do why I don't want my son around gay people, liars, etc. Because my son is a Christian and we teach him Christian values. If you don't want to accept that, that is your problem.
It's a bait question because it's a fallacy. Being "in the closet" isn't something I can see that someone is lying about. How do I know if a guy is gay but has a wife, children, etc that portrays him as a heterosexual? I don't. You know that as well as I do. So, if a guy is hiding something and hasn't been caught doing so, he isn't a liar until he is caught doing it. Correct? How can I call a guy a liar if I don't know he's lying?
Why do you care if my son isn't around gay people? Does that hurt you? Does that somehow infringe upon your rights? No, it does not. I will raise my son they way I want to raise my son. You can be heterosexual, homosexual, transexual, or whatever else there is if you want to be. But don't expect me to subject my son to your choices if I don't want to. As it is, I do not want to. Therefore, I will not be sending him to a camp with openly gay counselors. Simple as that.
 
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MarineTpartier said:
It's a bait question because you know as well as I do why I don't want my son around gay people, liars, etc. Because my son is a Christian and we teach him Christian values. If you don't want to accept that, that is your problem.
It's a bait question because it's a fallacy. Being "in the closet" isn't something I can see that someone is lying about. How do I know if a guy is gay but has a wife, children, etc that portrays him as a heterosexual? I don't. You know that as well as I do. So, if a guy is hiding something and hasn't been caught doing so, he isn't a liar until he is caught doing it. Correct? How can I call a guy a liar if I don't know he's lying?
Why do you care if my son isn't around gay people? Does that hurt you? Does that somehow infringe upon your rights? No, it does not. I will raise my son they way I want to raise my son. You can be heterosexual, homosexual, transexual, or whatever else there is if you want to be. But don't expect me to subject my son to your choices if I don't want to. As it is, I do not want to. Therefore, I will not be sending him to a camp with openly gay counselors. Simple as that.
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Well your values are ****ed up, that's all I'm saying.
 
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Your Star said:
Well your values are ****ed up, that's all I'm saying.
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And his values are the norm... All of us want to live and let live but don't keep trying to push the gay lifesyle down our throats because we will fight that.
 
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Navy Pride said:
And his values are the norm... All of us want to live and let live but don't keep trying to push the gay lifesyle down our throats because we will fight that.
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You have been shown that they are not the norm.
 
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MarineTpartier said:
It's a bait question because you know as well as I do why I don't want my son around gay people, liars, etc. Because my son is a Christian and we teach him Christian values. If you don't want to accept that, that is your problem.
It's a bait question because it's a fallacy. Being "in the closet" isn't something I can see that someone is lying about. How do I know if a guy is gay but has a wife, children, etc that portrays him as a heterosexual? I don't. You know that as well as I do. So, if a guy is hiding something and hasn't been caught doing so, he isn't a liar until he is caught doing it. Correct? How can I call a guy a liar if I don't know he's lying?
Why do you care if my son isn't around gay people? Does that hurt you? Does that somehow infringe upon your rights? No, it does not. I will raise my son they way I want to raise my son. You can be heterosexual, homosexual, transexual, or whatever else there is if you want to be. But don't expect me to subject my son to your choices if I don't want to. As it is, I do not want to. Therefore, I will not be sending him to a camp with openly gay counselors. Simple as that.
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so it's very Christian to teach your kid to be afraid of gay people because they might get you and then you would be gay.

yeah I don't know where that's written in the Bible
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Navy Pride said:
And his values are the norm... All of us want to live and let live but don't keep trying to push the gay lifesyle down our throats because we will fight that.
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they're not the norm though, there increasingly becoming less normal. most people on the planet realize proximity to gays doesn't really have an effect on someone who's not gay.

of course other than to take a very Christian approach and not alienate people.

so basically the values your teaching are to shun and alienate people? boy I wish I'd see some biblical support for that, because I seem to remember Jesus saying that that's a sin. but what does the Bible know apparently Christ has been reborn as the poster known as Navy pride.
 
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Navy Pride said:
OK I reworded my post and I apologize if I offended anyone with my last poll.......I am and old country boy and sometimes the meaning is not what I meant....I really would like to know how the members of the forum feel about this issue.
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assuming they are law abiding people just as the relevant straight folk who cares? I had gay friends in college and gay guy assigned to my suite as One L. I didn't worry about him-he knew I and the other guy was straight and we all got along fine. It wasn't like he'd ogle us in the shower. In fact he went out of his way to avoid doing anything that could remotely be called "gay" around us. My kid-to the best of my knowledge is straight (he's too young to date) and he isn't afraid of gays.
 
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TurtleDude said:
assuming they are law abiding people just as the relevant straight folk who cares? I had gay friends in college and gay guy assigned to my suite as One L. I didn't worry about him-he knew I and the other guy was straight and we all got along fine. It wasn't like he'd ogle us in the shower. In fact he went out of his way to avoid doing anything that could remotely be called "gay" around us. My kid-to the best of my knowledge is straight (he's too young to date) and he isn't afraid of gays.
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I don't know anyone afraid of them......I just don't want my 10 and 11 year olds sleeping in very close quarters with other openly gay boys.....If you have no problem with that when your kid reaches that age that is your problem
 
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Navy Pride said:
And his values are the norm... All of us want to live and let live but don't keep trying to push the gay lifestyle down our throats because we will fight that.
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I for one, hope and pray that his values are NOT the norm..
At the camp, if NO ONE is pushing lifestyles....and I doubt if anyone is...then, my child is off to camp..
Sensitivity is prime here, if, in front of adults, the homosexuals can do their thing...I will not watch, it is none of my business.
But, heaven hope those who do anything "perverted" in front of my children..
And anyone can do off the wall things , abnormal practices.......there is a place and time....
as I say
sensitivity
 
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earthworm said:
I for one, hope and pray that his values are NOT the norm..
At the camp, if NO ONE is pushing lifestyles....and I doubt if anyone is...then, my child is off to camp..
Sensitivity is prime here, if, in front of adults, the homosexuals can do their thing...I will not watch, it is none of my business.
But, heaven hope those who do anything "perverted" in front of my children..
And anyone can do off the wall things , abnormal practices.......there is a place and time....
as I say
sensitivity
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But your willing to take that chance with a 11 year old son who is very impressionable with peers who are outwardly gay sleeping in a tent in close quarters? Sorry I am not or to be honest my boys would have never to be put in that position...They would decline going to the camp at all.

Good luck my friend, I hope you change your mind when your son is 10 and if that situation comes up.
 
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Navy Pride said:
I don't know anyone afraid of them......I just don't want my 10 and 11 year olds sleeping in very close quarters with other openly gay boys.....If you have no problem with that when your kid reaches that age that is your problem
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hate to tell you NP when I was a 10 or 11 year old boy we often had camping trips where boys and girls slept in the same tents. no one got laid as I recall nor did any of the kids even give that a thought
 
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Navy Pride said:
Society and most churches would not agree with you.......sorry
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YourStar speaks the truth..
NP, your statement is WRONG and incorrect..
It is no longer the 1600s, nor even the 1900s.
People do change and do improve.
But, unfortunately, there are always a few extremists floating around, right, NP.
 
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Navy Pride said:
But your willing to take that chance with a 11 year old son who is very impressionable with peers who are outwardly gay sleeping in a tent in close quarters? Sorry I am not or to be honest my boys would have never to be put in that position...They would decline going to the camp at all.

Good luck my friend, I hope you change your mind when your son is 10 and if that situation comes up.
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if straight kids at that age aren't going to be screwing each others' brains out like a bunch of minks who got into the local viagra dispensary, why in God's name would gay kids be any different?
 
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Navy Pride said:
But your willing to take that chance with a 11 year old son who is very impressionable with peers who are outwardly gay sleeping in a tent in close quarters? Sorry I am not or to be honest my boys would have never to be put in that position...They would decline going to the camp at all.

Good luck my friend, I hope you change your mind when your son is 10 and if that situation comes up.
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did you kid was that weak willed, it would be because you failed as a parent.
 
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