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Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?

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Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

USViking said:
11 sounds a bit early to me, and even if it is accurate that leaves at least 7 years between infancy and hard wiring.




The American Psychological Association has been unable to reach that conclusion:

Wiki: Environment and sexual orientation

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The sexual orientation of the first generation of children with homosexual adoptive parents will provide strongly suggestive evidence, and I might yield to the geneticist side of the argument if over 80% of them turn out to be heterosexual.

However, I would still prefer to send my children to a camp catering to heterosexuals only.
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From your link:

Environment and sexual orientation is research into possible environmental influences on the development of human sexual orientation. Some researchers distinguish environmental influences from hormonal influences,[1] while others include biological influences such as prenatal hormones as part of environmental influences.[2]
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According to several studies, each older brother increases a man's odds of developing a homosexual orientation by 28%–48%. Most researchers attribute this to prenatal environmental factors, such as prenatal hormones.[17][18][19][20] McConaghy (2006) found no relationship between the strength of the effect and degree of homosexual feelings, suggesting the influence of fraternal birth order was not due to a biological, but a social process.[21]
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So, send the kid to camp, but leave the prenatal hormones home.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
or, maybe on a teleprompter, it would make sense.
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Yeah I need one sometimes I guess the difference is I am not the POTUS who is a mental midget without one.
 
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Honestly..as a mother..I would not allow my sons to go to a camp where the members were openly gay!!
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

USViking said:
11 sounds a bit early to me, and even if it is accurate that leaves at least 7 years between infancy and hard wiring.




The American Psychological Association has been unable to reach that conclusion:

Wiki: Environment and sexual orientation

(from link, emphasis added):





The sexual orientation of the first generation of children with homosexual adoptive parents will provide strongly suggestive evidence, and I might yield to the geneticist side of the argument if over 80% of them turn out to be heterosexual.

However, I would still prefer to send my children to a camp catering to heterosexuals only.
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In reality, I'd say that there is no such thing.....I doubt if any camp asks this very personal question, and if they tried, few would "tell the embarassing truth."..
 
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wolfie said:
Honestly..as a mother..I would not allow my sons to go to a camp where the members were openly gay!!
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Agree, but this does depend on the childs age...
When young, as it is a hard cruel world out there - they will find out soon enough - the unpleasant things should be deferred for as long as possible.
For one to parade around with an abnormal condition....is NOT best at a camp for youngsters..
Openly is the key word.
 
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earthworm said:
Agree, but this does depend on the childs age...
When young, as it is a hard cruel world out there - they will find out soon enough - the unpleasant things should be deferred for as long as possible.
For one to parade around with an abnormal condition....is NOT best at a camp for youngsters..
Openly is the key word.
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I would like my son's to be children first..discover heterosexual sex..if they decided they were ''gay'' they would get my full support..but sending children into a ''gay'' situation..NO!!!
 
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Dittohead not! said:
From your link:
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The quotation I cited, which fully supports my viewpoint, is both introductory and conclusive
to the entire article.

The quotations you cite merely describe two mutually exclusive current hypotheses.

Now, I would like to say at this point that by "environment" I had in mind the social and cultural
environment, and not the biological environment, which might be not just difficult but impossible
to disentangle from genetic factors.

And on another subject, I said I might accept the geneticist side of the argument if over 80%
of children adopted by homosexual parents grew up to be heterosexual. I amend the potential
concession to substitute over 90% because googling indicates that the percentage of the US
population which is exclusively homosexual may be under 5% (San Francisco a conspicuous outlier
at about 16%, likely because its reputation has drawn homosexuals from elsewhere for several decades).
 
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earthworm said:
In reality, I'd say that there is no such thing.....I doubt if any camp asks this very personal question, and if they tried, few would "tell the embarassing truth."..
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The Boy Scouts promote an exclusively heterosexual environment. I have no idea if they do it by asking for personal pledges,
or if they get by with some kind of don't ask don't tell policy.
 
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Guess it's better to send your kids to a camp with closeted gay members, you know they aren't repressed in the least.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

USViking said:
The Boy Scouts promote an exclusively heterosexual environment. I have no idea if they do it by asking for personal pledges,
or if they get by with some kind of don't ask don't tell policy.
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No, they don't, there is no policy regarding gay members, only openly gay members.

The don't ask don't tell policy was a bit of a farce, because it want true, it was a don't find out policy.

The boy scouts are going to do what they should have done in the first place. Leave it up to individual units.
 
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wolfie said:
I would like my son's to be children first..discover heterosexual sex..if they decided they were ''gay'' they would get my full support..but sending children into a ''gay'' situation..NO!!!
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A "gay situation"?? So anywhere that may have gay people, would be a gay situation!?

If this wasn't what you meant, please correct me....
 
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TheGirlNextDoor said:
A "gay situation"?? So anywhere that may have gay people, would be a gay situation!?

If this wasn't what you meant, please correct me....
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if e a situation can turn a kid gay. The kid wouldn't be straight. my parents kept me away from whatever gay situations are. they attempted raise me straight. but here we are. I've got to straight brothers, so wasn't parenting that made me bisexual.

just the nonsense that people are so terrified of seems absurd to me. the notion that a kid can be influenced to be gay, that makes me laugh
 
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USViking said:
The Boy Scouts promote an exclusively heterosexual environment. I have no idea if they do it by asking for personal pledges,
or if they get by with some kind of don't ask don't tell policy.
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The BS pledge says "Morally Straight" that is good enough for me.
 
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Navy Pride said:
The BS pledge says "Morally Straight" that is good enough for me.
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I believe I am "morally straight", and I'm very gay :lol:

Being morally straight has nothing to do with sexuality. In fact I would argue that the people wanting to exclude LGBT people from things don't qualify as "morally straight" individuals.
 
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USViking said:
The quotation I cited, which fully supports my viewpoint, is both introductory and conclusive
to the entire article.

The quotations you cite merely describe two mutually exclusive current hypotheses.

Now, I would like to say at this point that by "environment" I had in mind the social and cultural
environment, and not the biological environment, which might be not just difficult but impossible
to disentangle from genetic factors.

And on another subject, I said I might accept the geneticist side of the argument if over 80%
of children adopted by homosexual parents grew up to be heterosexual. I amend the potential
concession to substitute over 90% because googling indicates that the percentage of the US
population which is exclusively homosexual may be under 5% (San Francisco a conspicuous outlier
at about 16%, likely because its reputation has drawn homosexuals from elsewhere for several decades).
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Are children raised by gay parents more likely to be gay themselves?

What the Science Says

Although a few studies-- most of them poorly designed-- have suggested that queer parents are more likely to raise queer kids, the current scientific consensus suggests otherwise. The American Psychological Association notes that, in several large-scale studies, 100% of children with gay parents reported that they "were happy with their gender and had no wish to be a member of the opposite sex." Children with queer parents also demonstrated no greater tendency toward gender-atypical behaviors. Finally, the APA summarizes decades of research to conclude that the kids of gay parents are no more (or less) likely to be gay themselves. Queer is, ultimately, not contagious.
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Your Star said:
I believe I am "morally straight", and I'm very gay :lol:

Being morally straight has nothing to do with sexuality. In fact I would argue that the people wanting to exclude LGBT people from things don't qualify as "morally straight" individuals.
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Society and most churches would not agree with you.......sorry
 
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Navy Pride said:
Society and most churches would not agree with you.......sorry
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No, my generation agree's with me, only the aging dinosaurs are on the whole bigoted towards LGBT people. My generation overwhelming is not bigoted towards LGBT people, and that fact is one thing that gives me hope, and I am so glad that my generation is not tainted with your hate.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Society and most churches would not agree with you.......sorry
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which doesn't make them right necessarily.
 
Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

Navy Pride said:
Society and most churches would not agree with you.......sorry
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Most society actually does agree with her. It's only a matter of time before churches follow suit, as they always do.
 
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