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Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?

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I would rather there be openly gay members than closeted gay members, either way, I'm pretty sure my son isn't going to catch it.
 
Navy Pride said:
Because you don't agree its untrue but as usual on most of your posts your bias attitude is wrong and we did have black scouts and there was know problem with it.................Oh and I joined the Navy in 1956 and we had black sailors and no one had a problem with it...............Again you leftys like to pit the classes against one another but in thi case you are flat wrong.
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Oh my bad...I guess that whole segregation thing and battle over civil rights is just liberal proproganda.

You do know I'm not saying you personally in regards to being prejudiced to blacks.
 
disneydude said:
LOL...exactly my point NP...Thank you for proving it once again. You are perfectly fine sending your child to a camp where "Straight" "Married" closed homosexuals are....but freak out at the prospect of an honest gay person. Its called paranoia for a false sense of security.
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That is your opinion and I don't agree with it...I would never put my children in a situation that might be uncomfortable with to prove a left wwing ridiculous point.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I have to say I'd be shocked if parents are actively describing things in this way. More likely, parents are broadening their "warnings" to their children about not going anywhere with strangers, not letting anyone touch you where you don't want to be touched, etc. etc. - I can't imagine that a parent portrays "gay people as predators and alien creatures not to be trusted". That just sounds like a bunch of liberal hate nonsense directed at parents who disagree with you.
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No doubt.

However, this thread is specifically about sending boys to camp where there are openly gay counselors. And comments here are pretty specific about the "influence" and "impact" of "that kind of behavior".
 
iliveonramen said:
Oh my bad...I guess that whole segregation thing and battle over civil rights is just liberal proproganda.

You do know I'm not saying you personally in regards to being prejudiced to blacks.
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I did not see it when I was in the BSA or the Navy...............A lot of blacks that I knew (and there were several in my department) said they joined the Navy for this and were happy with the way they were treated in fact we had a couple of Black CPOs in my deepartment.
 
mac said:
I would rather there be openly gay members than closeted gay members, either way, I'm pretty sure my son isn't going to catch it.
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as a 11 year old you would have a problem with your son deal with it. I always say I would not have my sons attend a girls camp or my daughters attend a boys camp where they had to sleep over night in small tents with the opposite sex...........sorry
 
Navy Pride said:
That is your opinion and I don't agree with it...I would never put my children in a situation that might be uncomfortable with to prove a left wwing ridiculous point.
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Chances are Navy....you have and you don't even know it. Which is exactly why honesty is ALWAYS a better route to take than relying on a false sense of security.
 
Danbury said:
No doubt.

However, this thread is specifically about sending boys to camp where there are openly gay counselors. And comments here are pretty specific about the "influence" and "impact" of "that kind of behavior".
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My views on that were provided in a previous post so I won't go into detail about it - suffice it to say that in my view there is no greater threat of a gay person being a peodophile than a straight person.
 
disneydude said:
Chances are Navy....you have and you don't even know it. Which is exactly why honesty is ALWAYS a better route to take than relying on a false sense of security.
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You just don't get it and never will....If I KNOW
there are opening gay scouts I would never send them............Its rather obvious tht if I did not know there were openly gay then it would not matter......
 
CanadaJohn said:
My views on that were provided in a previous post so I won't go into detail about it - suffice it to say that in my view there is no greater threat of a gay person being a peodophile than a straight person.
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I don't even know where you're coming from with these comments, esp. in response to me. But since you mention it, girls are at much greater risk when it comes to pedophilia. And yet, there is no discussion about "letting" girls have straight male teachers or counselors, etc.
 
Navy Pride said:
You just don't get it and never will....If I KNOW
there are opening gay scouts I would never send them............Its rather obvious tht if I did not know there were openly gay then it would not matter......
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LOL....in other words, ignorance is bliss? Wow Navy...that is exactly the mistake that so many parents make.
 
disneydude said:
LOL....in other words, ignorance is bliss? Wow Navy...that is exactly the mistake that so many parents make.
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Again that is your left wing opinion and you know what opinionss are like? Everyone has one.
 
roughdraft274 said:
In what possible way would a camp cater to the openly gay members too much? You think there gonna show gay porn every other day after swimming// And, what is to say that this cannot happen..???
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I have no idea....
I think, again think, that extremists in a homosexual setting can be a problem..No extremist - no problem...We must at all times think of our children..
So much of this depends on the age of the children at camp..
Even, in the previous century, a certain percentage of camp members would be homosexual, and, I'd that it was handled well enough, but today ??
With so much extremism and lack of sensitivity, IMO
 
Wow 67-13 pretty much along Conservative/Liberal beliefs.......I wonder how many of you lefties would feel the same way if their 11 year old faced the isue and you have to make the decision.....I think the poll would be much closer.
 
Navy Pride said:
Again that is your left wing opinion and you know what opinionss are like? Everyone has one.
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How is that an opinion? You CLEARLY stated that you would have a problem sending your child to a camp with openly gay counselors, but would have absolutely no problem sending them to a camp full of closeted supposedly straight homosexuals because you wouldn't know. How is that NOT "ignorance is bliss?"

BTW...if you are Catholic and are at all active, then you absolutely have put your children in contact with closeted homosexuals.
 
Navy Pride said:
Wow 67-13 pretty much along Conservative/Liberal beliefs.......I wonder how many of you lefties would feel the same way if their 11 year old faced the isue and you have to make the decision.....I think the poll would be much closer.
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No it isn't. A large percentage of the 67 are not liberal Navy....as much as you want to try to claim it....it is just another of your outright lies.
 
Navy Pride said:
Wow 67-13 pretty much along Conservative/Liberal beliefs.......I wonder how many of you lefties would feel the same way if their 11 year old faced the isue and you have to make the decision.....I think the poll would be much closer.
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Why would it change if we actually had to send our sons to camp? Why would we become bigoted because we have children?
 
Aunt Spiker said:
In the last 5 years we've made 12 injury-related trips to the ER. . .all bloody. Lots of blood - it's amazing how much kids manage to bleed.

And you know - one time at my Dad's church we were goofing off on the stairs and one kid fell down and went through the drywall - busted his nose . . . just as one example.

OH! (afterthought) that does remind me of some dude we use to know when I was 10 or so - he was a lot of fun to hang around with. We'd ham it up - he'd help my dad out around the church. Everyone loved him. . . and then one day for reasons unknown to us (kids) - we were told not to ever talk to him again. I don't know what he did - but he was suddenly unwelcome and I doubt that 'being gay' was one of the concerns.
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I think there is a growing number of people who believe it is good for kids to risk minor accidents (which is defined as including broken bones). Kids who are not allowed to play in a risky manner develop more phobias.
 
Navy Pride said:
as a 11 year old you would have a problem with your son deal with it. I always say I would not have my sons attend a girls camp or my daughters attend a boys camp where they had to sleep over night in small tents with the opposite sex...........sorry
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It's camp, NP, not a Roman Orgy.
 
Navy Pride said:
Wow 67-13 pretty much along Conservative/Liberal beliefs.......I wonder how many of you lefties would feel the same way if their 11 year old faced the isue and you have to make the decision.....I think the poll would be much closer.
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Plenty of the people who voted yes consider themselves conservative, or republicans, or whatever term you'd like to use, including myself. We just happen to live in 2013 and we're pretty confident 'the gay' is not a transferable disease.
 
Navy Pride said:
OK I reworded my post and I apologize if I offended anyone with my last poll.......I am and old country boy and sometimes the meaning is not what I meant....I really would like to know how the members of the forum feel about this issue.
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Considering homosexuality isn't infectious, I don't know why it would matter.

Navy Pride said:
Wow 67-13 pretty much along Conservative/Liberal beliefs.......I wonder how many of you lefties would feel the same way if their 11 year old faced the isue and you have to make the decision.....I think the poll would be much closer.
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Not being terrified of gay people doesn't make us leftists. It makes us not you.
 
Navy Pride said:
I did not see it when I was in the BSA or the Navy...............A lot of blacks that I knew (and there were several in my department) said they joined the Navy for this and were happy with the way they were treated in fact we had a couple of Black CPOs in my deepartment.
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In fact the US Military paved the way for racial equality in America due in no small part to the skill and heroics of black servicemen that particularly came to light in WWII. White bomber pilots who wanted to live to see another day began requesting escorts by the all black Tuskegee Airmen due to their high level of skill and discipline. Black Pearl Harbor sailor Dorie Miller during the attack on Peal Harbor carried several wounded sailors to safety then on his own initiative manned an anti-aircraft machine gun and shot down several Japanese bombers with absolutely no training beyond doing laundry. This sort of military distinction caused the military rank, file and officers to press Congress to racially integrate. 30 years later, former Tuskegee Airman Chappie James became the first 4 Star General in the US Military, was given command of the North American Strategic Air Command with the responsibility of protecting the North American continent from a surprise Soviet attack and the only human being in America with standing authorization to launch a nuclear attack on another country without Presidential approval other than the President.
 
Danbury said:
I don't even know where you're coming from with these comments, esp. in response to me. But since you mention it, girls are at much greater risk when it comes to pedophilia. And yet, there is no discussion about "letting" girls have straight male teachers or counselors, etc.
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I would agree - I'm no expert on the matter, but it seems there is a certain level of hysteria that developed beginning with the revelations about the Catholic Church and decades of both boys and girls, but mainly boys, being sexually abused by clergy. That led to the misconception that all gays are peodophiles and all clergy are gay and by extention any adult male who works or volunteers with children must be a gay peodophile.

Such unhealthy suspicions have led to many men in today's society removing themselves from any situation where they may be falsely accused of inappropriate contact with children.
 
Not sure how I'd know it. Likely any camp you send any kid to has a gay member, don't ya think? That the question has to be asked, ensures not everyone will be open about it...as though anyone really cares.

I would rather send my child to a camp that might have a gay member, then to send them to a camp that for traditional religious reasons, prohibits any member from being gay, or prevents non-religious attendance, etc. If my child is old enough to be "in danger of turning gay", by you know, getting gay cooties, then I would have talked to them sufficient to not be concerned. If you want 100% prevention, you have to lock them up in a cell, else, they will be exposed to the real world. I think the worst thing some parents do is stigmatize things to some outrageously unrealistic level, and then watch as their child tries to adjust to reality when they leave home at 18 or early twenties and is traumatized..or traumatizes others, as a result.
 
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