• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?

  • Total voters
    175
Status
Not open for further replies.
Navy Pride said:
OK I reworded my post and I apologize if I offended anyone with my last poll.......I am and old country boy and sometimes the meaning is not what I meant....I really would like to know how the members of the forum feel about this issue.
Click to expand...

Of course. There's nothing wrong with being gay, it's not contagious, and it doesn't make one a pedophile. It's like asking "would you let your kid attend a camp where there are other people?". Completely nonsensical.
 
Viktyr Gehrig said:
Moderator's Warning:
This thread is Upstairs. It is going to stay Upstairs. If people try to get this one flushed like the last one, there will be consequences.
Click to expand...

Wow. Moderators policing moderators.:shock:
 
DaveFagan said:
I wouldn't want my child to think the only way you know if you are gay is if you try it and don't like it. Put yourself back in your pubescent mindset and then answer.
Click to expand...

Going back to my pubescent mindset, I remember quite clearly that I never once believed that I needed to try and suck a dick in order to know I did not have any desire to suck a dick.

It was pretty obvious to me that I was straight. No confusion whatsoever. But that's because I am straight. I did not have people telling me there was something wrong with me because of the gender I am attracted to. I didn't have people telling me that I only choose to be attracted to women and that I could very easily slobber all over a **** if I wanted to because being gay is a "choice".

That's where the true irony lies. The people who are most fearful of having their child "turned" gay feel that way because they believe that being gay is a choice, and are the very people who are promoting the hypothetical notion that one would somehow need to "test the waters" in order to determine whether or not they like it.

I wonder if they think this because they are actually bisexual and have attractions toward both genders, though. I mean, they had to have been capable of thinking "I could suck a dick/munch a rug if I really wanted to" at some point in their lives in order to think it's a choice. Is the only thing that prevents the "it's a choice" crowd from gobbling knob the fear that they might actually discover that they like it quite a bit?

Because as a straight man, I know that the "only" thing which prevents me from sucking dick is the simple fact that I am not attracted to men. It's no different from when I was 13. Didn't have any urge to do it. I don't see it as a choice because I know that I have no interest in knob gobbling. I mean, technically I could physically suck a dick by choice, anyone could, but I could not make myselfwant to do it, nor can I even fathom a situation were putting a penis into my mouth would lead me into thinking "Hey! That was awesome! I'm going to be so ****ing gay from now on! Bring on the cocks!"


I guess that's why I find the whole "being gay is a choice" position so absurd.
 
Crosscheck said:
Poll: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?

As opposed to camps where their are certain members who preach non-stop antigay arguments who themselves are closet gays?
Click to expand...


You mean like the ones in this video?
Anti-Gay Homophobic Pastors and Politicians who turn out to be gay
 
It is an unquestioned fact of life that sexual predators, whether they be gay or straight, find ways to "socialize" with young people because of their attraction to them. It is also logical to assume that someone who is "openly gay" is not a sexual predator looking for children to abuse - why advertise if you want to commit a crime.

The vast majority of gay people, just as with the vast majority of straight people, are not peodophiles and in the scenario presented in this poll, I'd suggest the other adults in the camp would have a greater chance of being hit on than the children.
 
Navy Pride said:
OK I reworded my post and I apologize if I offended anyone with my last poll.......I am and old country boy and sometimes the meaning is not what I meant....I really would like to know how the members of the forum feel about this issue.
Click to expand...



Would you allow your son to go to Catholic Church?
 
Dragonfly said:
Would you allow your son to go to Catholic Church?
Click to expand...

Not be an alter boy for sure......just saying, Mohammad still tied up his camel before he went inside to pray, to paraphrase Louis Farrakhan
 
How dare a person share his conservative view on homosexuality. The mob needs to tar and feather him. :roll::mrgreen:

Anyways, I'm not sure what I'd do. As an atheist, some expect me to have absolutely no apprehension about it... as if they demand I not be disgusted. Well, in my opinion it is disgusting. One man takes his corncob and rams it into another mans cornhole. Pardon me if that makes me want to barf. I don't feel it's natural, and I don't see how doing so succeeds in any natural act besides some awkward sexual gratification.

Should homosexuals have rights? Sure, let them. Do I have the right to not take my son to a place like that? Absolutely. I'm not in the business of creating fake outrage against any person who doesn't agree with my point of view. If I feel homosexual acts are disgusting, and I value my children and want to mold them as I see fit, I will do so. No one has the right not to be offended. That asides, I'd rather have my kids interested in things besides camps, like gardening.
 
Wake said:
How dare a person share his conservative view on homosexuality. The mob needs to tar and feather him. :roll::mrgreen:

Anyways, I'm not sure what I'd do. As an atheist, some expect me to have absolutely no apprehension about it... as if they demand I not be disgusted. Well, in my opinion it is disgusting. One man takes his corncob and rams it into another mans cornhole. Pardon me if that makes me want to barf. I don't feel it's natural, and I don't see how doing so succeeds in any natural act besides some awkward sexual gratification.

Should homosexuals have rights? Sure, let them. Do I have the right to not take my son to a place like that? Absolutely. I'm not in the business of creating fake outrage against any person who doesn't agree with my point of view. If I feel homosexual acts are disgusting, and I value my children and want to mold them as I see fit, I will do so. No one has the right not to be offended. That asides, I'd rather have my kids interested in things besides camps, like gardening.
Click to expand...


You are right to not send your kid to a college where homosexuals are having orgies out in the quad. Can I assume you would not send a daughter to a campus where straight being are "doing it" too?
 
Danbury said:
You are right to not send your kid to a college where homosexuals are having orgies out in the quad. Can I assume you would not send a daughter to a campus where straight being are "doing it" too?
Click to expand...

I would rather my children not go to any college where "having orgies out in the quad" was the norm, whether straight or gay.
 
why are people so concerned about SONS and "being exposed" to the sexuality of surrounding adults? Do these same people keep their daughters from adult heterosexual men?
 
Wake said:
I would rather my children not go to any college where "having orgies out in the quad" was the norm, whether straight or gay.
Click to expand...

Oh. Well the implication of your post was that GAY men have sex right out in the open, thereby exposing your son to it. Might it not be wise for parents to teach their children to knock before entering another's bedroom?
 
Danbury said:
Oh. Well the implication of your post was that GAY men have sex right out in the open, thereby exposing your son to it. Might it not be wise for parents to teach their children to knock before entering another's bedroom?
Click to expand...

Really? Would you show exactly where, please?
 
Wake said:
Really? Would you show exactly where, please?
Click to expand...

Sure. Where you say your son would be subjected to gay sex. Here you go: f I feel homosexual acts are disgusting, and I value my children and want to mold them as I see fit, I will do so. No one has the right not to be offended. That asides, I'd rather have my kids interested in things besides camps, like gardening.

Btw, name a sex act that is inherently NOT "disgusting", esp. to children witnessing it?
 
Danbury said:
Sure. Where you say your son would be subjected to gay sex. Here you go: f I feel homosexual acts are disgusting, and I value my children and want to mold them as I see fit, I will do so. No one has the right not to be offended. That asides, I'd rather have my kids interested in things besides camps, like gardening.

Btw, name a sex act that is inherently NOT "disgusting", esp. to children witnessing it?
Click to expand...

Excuse me, but where did I ever say my son would be subjected to gay sex? Are you sure you didn't assume that? By reading the statement, you can see that I said I feel homosexual acts are disgusting, and that since I value my children and want to mold them, I'll do so. Homosexual people don't disgust me. Their actions do, and I know that most homosexuals do those actions.

No one said anything about children witnessing sexual acts, so what you seem to be doing is spurious imho. I'd appreciate it if you didn't make assumptions about my posts and then try to argue using them.
 
It would depend. If they were flaming effeminate gay's, I probably wouldn't want my kid hanging around them too long in case any of that would rub off on him. I wouldn't care if my kid was a girl. It has nothing to do with whether I think they'll rape my kid but everything to do with I don't want that kind of personality being taught to my son. I probably wouldn't care if my son was gay.

This would be my concern, but in the end I would probably not do anything about it if my son wanted to go for whatever reason.

I grew up with my effeminate gay nephew, everytime we played power-rangers he was the pink one, he was the girl in every game we played, he would always comment about is hair and whether an activity would mess up his clothes or hair... man that pissed me off at times lol.
I have a view on what masculine should be, and that's what I want to teach to my son if he isn't gay. It's like any value you have opinions on that you want to teach to your kids.
 
Wake said:
Excuse me, but where did I ever say my son would be subjected to gay sex? Are you sure you didn't assume that? By reading the statement, you can see that I said I feel homosexual acts are disgusting, and that since I value my children and want to mold them, I'll do so. Homosexual people don't disgust me. Their actions do, and I know that most homosexuals do those actions.

No one said anything about children witnessing sexual acts, so what you seem to be doing is spurious imho. I'd appreciate it if you didn't make assumptions about my posts and then try to argue using them.
Click to expand...

Well, how can your son be molded and influenced by disgusting gay sex w/o witnessing it??
 
Navy Pride said:
Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?
Click to expand...

I would have no problem with it. Just because someone is a homosexual doesn't mean they want to have butt sex with little Timmy or have oral little Johnny's little johnny. Its the in the closet homosexuals who might be pedophiles that I am more worried about. As far as I know the camps don't strip job applicants bare naked and show them pictures or videos of boys,men,girls or women to see what gives him an erection.So they can't easily weed those people. Before you start accusing me of being some lefty yes I actually do oppose gay marriage.That means no marriage, no civil unions, domestic partnerships or any other paper coated term for marriage.Marriage should only be between man and women.I am also opposed to gay adoptions, I feel that children should only be adopted by married couples consisting of a man and woman. I feel that children need a father and mother.Gay couples can not provide this and neither can single parents.
 
Interesting the lack of a discussion on how the kid might feel about it......like I said before, just depends.
 
Danbury said:
Well, how can your son be molded and influenced by disgusting gay sex w/o witnessing it??
Click to expand...

Because my son would be in that environment with homosexuals who do those actions. I wouldn't feel comfortable with my child being heavily influenced by a person who does those acts, especially at a young age. Though my sons would not know because they are innocent boys, I, their father, would. I would prefer my sons being raised to be manly, similar to the Spartans of old.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom