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Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?

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Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

DA60 said:
Agreed.

The really sad thing is how many parents ignored their kids when they said some family friend or trusted member of the community 'touched me in a bad place'. And the parents just assumed the person in question was 'not like that'?
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I find that adults that respect authority (typically taught to respect authority when they were young) are open to this vulnerability.
 
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DA60 said:
Yes...but you are missing the point.

Whether they are openly gay or not is irrelevant to me.

No man whom I don't know EXTREMELY well (like a very, VERY close friend/relative) would I trust to go camping with my son.
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Well, my post was really directed to Wolfie...but since you responded.

Your response is a separate issue all together. It's not about disqualifying any specific person based on his or her sexuality. It's disqualifying all persons whom you don't know well enough for your son to be in their custody...away from the family unit. So, I would say that overall, the scouting program isn't for you...or your son...unless the scout master(s) are known and trusted by you.
 
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Removable Mind said:
Well, my post was really directed to Wolfie...but since you responded.

Your response is a separate issue all together. It's not about disqualifying any specific person based on his or her sexuality. It's disqualifying all persons whom you don't know well enough for your son to be in their custody...away from the family unit. So, I would say that overall, the scouting program isn't for you...or your son...unless the scout master(s) are known and trusted by you.
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Yeah, somehow I quoted the wrong post.

Sorry.
 
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Removable Mind said:
Well, my post was really directed to Wolfie...but since you responded.

Your response is a separate issue all together. It's not about disqualifying any specific person based on his or her sexuality. It's disqualifying all persons whom you don't know well enough for your son to be in their custody...away from the family unit. So, I would say that overall, the scouting program isn't for you...or your son...unless the scout master(s) are known and trusted by you.
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I actually can't believe that 78% of the posters here would have no problem handing their kids over to a gay guy...

Are you trying to get rid of them for a week?? NO MATTER WHAT??

I sat with a man once..who was a serious financier..but became an alcoholic..

His parents used to leave him with a priest whilst they worked in India..

The priest used to ''bugger'' him on a regular basis..when his parents came home and he tried to tell them what had happened..he was told he was ''a naughty boy who told lies'' and should be ashamed..
 
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wolfie said:
I actually can't believe that 78% of the posters here would have no problem handing their kids over to a gay guy...

Are you trying to get rid of them for a week?? NO MATTER WHAT??

I sat with a man once..who was a serious financier..but became an alcoholic..

His parents used to leave him with a priest whilst they worked in India..

The priest used to ''bugger'' him on a regular basis..when his parents came home and he tried to tell them what had happened..he was told he was ''a naughty boy who told lies'' and should be ashamed..
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Again...are you saying that a gay man, who is a scout master, is also a pedophile? And...that all gay men are predators on male children...who would purposely attempt to force or advocate their sexual orientation on a child who happen to be in that troop...
 
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Removable Mind said:
Again...are you saying that a gay man, who is a scout master, is also a pedophile? And...that all gay men are predators on male children...who would purposely attempt to force or advocate their sexual orientation on a child who happen to be in that troop...
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Who the hell knows..but it is a chance I would not be prepared to take..
 
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wolfie said:
Who the hell knows..but it is a chance I would not be prepared to take..
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So in essences you identify being "gay" the same as being a "pedophile".

There is a major difference...despite your personal fears.

Actually, you shouldn't disqualify men who live heterosexual lives...with wives and children of their own...who are scout masters. You know, just like Jerry Sandusky.

Your children are going to have to live out their lives on a very short lease...and/or...remember to drill a lot of air holes in the glass box that they will spend their childhood in.
 
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Paschendale said:
The bolded. Not so much. It's fine law. The right to privacy becomes more and more crucial as surveillance technology enters our lives more and more. And Roe v Wade is one of the foundational cases in privacy law. As are the rulings that protect gays, much to your chagrin. None of those can be overturned without massive repercussions in other areas, none of which I bet you'd like.

And this "return it to the states" mantra... that's really just code for "I want to be able to infringe on the rights of minorities without that pesky constitution stopping me."



I would say Stevens and Sotomayor are actual liberals. And much to the chagrin of conservatives, left leaning justices are more inclined towards small government rulings.
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They are about as left as you can get andd DD knows it.
 
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Removable Mind said:
So in essences you identify being "gay" the same as being a "pedophile".

There is a major difference...despite your personal fears.

Actually, you shouldn't disqualify men who live heterosexual lives...with wives and children of their own...who are scout masters. You know, just like Jerry Sandusky.

Your children are going to have to live out their lives on a very short lease...and/or...remember to drill a lot of air holes in the glass box that they will spend their childhood in.
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Not my kids.........We taught them the difference between right and wrong....If that incident ocurred they would have said Dad I don't want to go to a camp where there are openly gay scouts.
 
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Navy Pride said:
They are about as left as you can get andd DD knows it.
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To you, the Taliban are left wing. And why are you "shouting" with all this big text? Are you afraid people won't see your posts? Do you think that bigger letters will intimidate people into agreeing with you? Do you think we judge the conviction of your opinions by the size of your font?

Navy Pride said:
Not my kids.........We taught them the difference between right and wrong....If that incident ocurred they would have said Dad I don't want to go to a camp where there are openly gay scouts.
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And they will live a lesser life because of the bigotry you have instilled in them. They will pass up rich experiences that could enrich their lives, and will act with malice towards innocent people because you are uncomfortable about other men's penises.
 
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Removable Mind said:
So in essences you identify being "gay" the same as being a "pedophile".

There is a major difference...despite your personal fears.

Actually, you shouldn't disqualify men who live heterosexual lives...with wives and children of their own...who are scout masters. You know, just like Jerry Sandusky.

Your children are going to have to live out their lives on a very short lease...and/or...remember to drill a lot of air holes in the glass box that they will spend their childhood in.
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I have fully informed my children of the dangers they may encounter..without frightening them..2 of my sons are in Australia at the moment (I'm not there) another 2..are looking for jobs in Italy..(I'm not there)...they are well balanced who do not feel the need to be tied to their mothers apron strings..
 
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Navy Pride said:
Not my kids.........We taught them the difference between right and wrong....If that incident ocurred they would have said Dad I don't want to go to a camp where there are openly gay scouts.
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Unless they were sexually approached...why would a gay find it necessary to engage in dialog about their sexuality?

That's not usually the type of discussion had between an adult and child...unless that person is a pedophile...rather than gay.
 
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Paschendale said:
To you, the Taliban are left wing. And why are you "shouting" with all this big text? Are you afraid people won't see your posts? Do you think that bigger letters will intimidate people into agreeing with you? Do you think we judge the conviction of your opinions by the size of your font?



And they will live a lesser life because of the bigotry you have instilled in them. They will pass up rich experiences that could enrich their lives, and will act with malice towards innocent people because you are uncomfortable about other men's penises.[/QUOTE]

Nothing new here, as usual all you lefties can do it call out names like bigot and homophobes which my boys are not.......If you want to debate the issues fine. If you want to insult a fellow poster then I am through with you.
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wolfie said:
I actually can't believe that 78% of the posters here would have no problem handing their kids over to a gay guy...
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wolfie said:
Are you trying to get rid of them for a week?? NO MATTER WHAT??

I sat with a man once..who was a serious financier..but became an alcoholic..

His parents used to leave him with a priest whilst they worked in India..

The priest used to ''bugger'' him on a regular basis..when his parents came home and he tried to tell them what had happened..he was told he was ''a naughty boy who told lies'' and should be ashamed..
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If truth be told and the posters were honest with themselves I truly believe that the only people that would send their kids to a camp were gays were the openly is the gays and Lesbians.......It easy to be above the fray and say you have no problem with it but if push come to shove straight parents with few exceptions would not allow it.
 
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wolfie said:
I am older..so I know the world isn't made up of ''nice people''
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of course it isn't, even straight people. I tell my kid not to get his information out to anybody. but there is a certain level of trust you have to have otherwise your kid will be locked up in a dungeon.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Paschendale said:
To you, the Taliban are left wing. And why are you "shouting" with all this big text? Are you afraid people won't see your posts? Do you think that bigger letters will intimidate people into agreeing with you? Do you think we judge the conviction of your opinions by the size of your font?



And they will live a lesser life because of the bigotry you have instilled in them. They will pass up rich experiences that could enrich their lives, and will act with malice towards innocent people because you are uncomfortable about other men's penises.[/QUOTE]

Nothing new here, as usual all you lefties can do it call out names like bigot and homophobes which my boys are not.......If you want to debate the issues fine. If you want to insult a fellow poster then I am through with you.
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you call someone a bigot for saying things like " all of you people". you're a bigot because of that.
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wolfie said:
I actually can't believe that 78% of the posters here would have no problem handing their kids over to a gay guy...

Are you trying to get rid of them for a week?? NO MATTER WHAT??

I sat with a man once..who was a serious financier..but became an alcoholic..

His parents used to leave him with a priest whilst they worked in India..

The priest used to ''bugger'' him on a regular basis..when his parents came home and he tried to tell them what had happened..he was told he was ''a naughty boy who told lies'' and should be ashamed..
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I don't know why you don't understand this, gay men are not necessarily pedifiles.
 
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Navy Pride said:




If truth be told and the posters were honest with themselves I truly believe that the only people that would send their kids to a camp were gays were the openly is the gays and Lesbians.......It easy to be above the fray and say you have no problem with it but if push come to shove straight parents with few exceptions would not allow it.
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that weird, by daughters baby sister was gay and i had zero problem with it :shrug:

you know why? im intelligent enough to understand facts and i know that being gay doesnt make you a child molester :lamo

at a Kids Connection (after school youth center) where i volunteer when i can Mr. Carpenter is the most sought after "Mentor", he is openly gay.
You know why parents seek him out, because he is the best mentor, tutor, teacher and they are also intelligent enough to understand the fact that being gay doesnt make a person a child molester :lamo
 
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Objective-J said:
that weird, by daughters baby sister was gay and i had zero problem with it :shrug:

you know why? im intelligent enough to understand facts and i know that being gay doesnt make you a child molester :lamo

at a Kids Connection (after school youth center) where i volunteer when i can Mr. Carpenter is the most sought after "Mentor", he is openly gay.
You know why parents seek him out, because he is the best mentor, tutor, teacher and they are also intelligent enough to understand the fact that being gay doesnt make a person a child molester :lamo
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That is true but gays do abuse straights...Straights do not abuse gays sexually.
 
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Navy Pride said:

That is true but gays do abuse straights...Straights do not abuse gays sexually.
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this is the most non intelligible nonsense you have ever written, congratulations.
 
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Objective-J said:
that weird, by daughters baby sister was gay and i had zero problem with it :shrug:

you know why? im intelligent enough to understand facts and i know that being gay doesnt make you a child molester :lamo

at a Kids Connection (after school youth center) where i volunteer when i can Mr. Carpenter is the most sought after "Mentor", he is openly gay.
You know why parents seek him out, because he is the best mentor, tutor, teacher and they are also intelligent enough to understand the fact that being gay doesnt make a person a child molester :lamo
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he is a bigot, you can't talk sense into him. he rejects knowledge and delights in his own arrogance.
 
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Navy Pride said:

That is true but gays do abuse straights...Straights do not abuse gays sexually.
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Where do you get this **** NP? That has to be one of the stupidest things ever posted here.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
I don't know why you don't understand this, gay men are not necessarily pedifiles.
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You state the obvious but judging by the priest scandal a hell of a lot of them do.
 
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Redress said:
Where do you get this **** NP? That has to be one of the stupidest things ever posted here.
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I have never heard of a straight man abusing a gay man.....To a truly straight man the sex that gays participate in is disgusting and perverted......I know that to be a fact because I am a straight man and that is exactly how I feel......Sorry to burst your bubble. Sorry about the font....Not sure what happened.
 
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Navy Pride said:

You state the obvious but judging by the priest scandal a hell of a lot of them do.
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You have some documentation that pedophile priests are gay?
 
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