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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    My first roommate was a rugged, heavy set, bearded macho man. Couldn't figure out why we weren't allowed girls in the apartment, till I saw him at a Rest Area trying to hookup with a meat slinger (male hooker).

    I later found out he rented too me because he was attracted and tried to talk me into a relationship. And I told him "dude the idea of kissing your hairy face just freaks me out!" He went on to explain how he became gay and started out hetero, then bisexual. He believed it was a predisposition that varied from person to person, which is why he thought he could convert me. I didn't care then what people do in the bedroom and I still don't. If you're not invited to the party it's not your damn business.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    riddle me this why do you only worry about this with gay people?
    do you believe gay people are more likely to sexually "manipulate" others for some reason?
    If the gay people are teenagers? Frankly, I don't trust teenagers as far as I can throw them. Ha!

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    I don't see how it's sad. If you're a Catholic, you follow the rules of the Catholic Church, or else you don't get to participate in all activities and benefits via non-compliance.
    I think it's sad because it is Christ that invites me to the communion altar, not the Catholic Church. Rules, rules and more rules. Christ welcomed sinners with open arms. Even IF the Catholic Church believes homosexuals are sinners, what gives the church the right to deny them?

    But - then - that's a whole different thread. I am not fond of the Catholic Church. I find their exclusionary tenets to be hypocritical.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    Catholics don't worship popes, so the popes teachings aren't really of much value.

    Further more the world has grown since you were in catholic school, as did the church. There are gay affirming Catholic churches, what you believe is irrelevant.
    What planet are you from? I have a flash for you. The pope is the leader of the Roman Catholic Church.........
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If the gay people are teenagers? Frankly, I don't trust teenagers as far as I can throw them. Ha!



    I think it's sad because it is Christ that invites me to the communion altar, not the Catholic Church. Rules, rules and more rules. Christ welcomed sinners with open arms. Even IF the Catholic Church believes homosexuals are sinners, what gives the church the right to deny them?

    But - then - that's a whole different thread. I am not fond of the Catholic Church. I find their exclusionary tenets to be hypocritical.
    Catholics aren't the only club for team Jesus. I honestly don't understand why a homosexual would choose to go/stay Catholic anyway. Seems counterproductive to me.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Obviously we have some Gays in my church...My church has about a thousand members so if you go by stats then 1% are gay....Like I said before they are welcomed with open arms but they cannot sin just like straights can't
    You are completely ignoring the new testament, in Romans it says that everybody sins, so either your church isn't really catholic, or Christian our you misspoke.

    Jesus died to save us from or sin. If we didn't sin than why would all of that have occurred. As per Christian tradition all sins were forgiven when we were washed in the blood of the lamb. The washing was subscribed in John.

    So yes all Christians are sinners, that's why we need a savior, though Jesus's salvation is the only way to enter the kingdom.

    For a person who attended Catholic school you sure don't know much about it

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If the gay people are teenagers? Frankly, I don't trust teenagers as far as I can throw them. Ha!

    LOL well working with and coaching them i agree but then why would you send your kids to a camp at all then? I guess thats where my confusion comes in?

    why would the camp without open gays be ok and you trust those teens, again not attacking trying to understand the logic?
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    Yes I can, because not only can I say it isn't there, but I can say that there is no possible way it could be there. Corinthians is one book in the English translation has the word homosexual in it, this is flawed for so many reasons I can't count.

    Corinth is a city in Greece, so the original text is written in Greek, homosexual is a term invented by alternating Latin which was only coined about a century ago. The rich text is the word arsenokoitai in conjunction with malakos and catamites, arsenokoitai is the combination of Arseno which means male and koitai which means bed. We know it was a greco tradition for predominate males to take boy sex slaves, so arsenokoitai is a man who takes a man to bed. This would apply to modern homosexuality but if it weren't for the context in which the word is used. Malakos means soft, catamite means boy prostitute.

    The original text as my very basic understanding of Greek, is referring to the wealthy users of mankind, particularly men with young boy concubines.

    Just like the word kill in reference to the ten commandments is understood to mean murder. The many times different hands have translated the Bible into many different languages it loses its meaning. Like the game of telephone but over four millennia and across hundreds of cultures.

    I would love to learn more biblical Greek just to see what truly was written.
    Ok, so you don't buy the translation(s) (or you have a translation of your own), but that's not the same thing as saying it's not there at all. You may be comfortable casting aside what the Bible says, but not everybody else is (myself included, btw).

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    Yup, my church follows biblical scripture, if yours doesn't, I guess it isn't Christian.
    I don't know about Christian but it is Not Roman Catholic......You have to live with that fact my left wing friend.

    Question does your church consider the gay sex they partipate in a mortal sin....Do you have you the sacrament of confession? Does it even recognize we are all sinners????
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I later found out he rented too me because he was attracted and tried to talk me into a relationship. And I told him "dude the idea of kissing your hairy face just freaks me out!" He went on to explain how he became gay and started out hetero, then bisexual. He believed it was a predisposition that varied from person to person, which is why he thought he could convert me. .....


    This isn't the first time I've heard a story like that, nor the second.

    And it is one of the reasons why a lot of parents would feel a little uncomfortable letting their teenagers camp out in the woods with openly homosexual scouts and scoutmasters.

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    What planet are you from? I have a flash for you. The pope is the leader of the Roman Catholic Church.........
    No, he is the rock on which the church was built, Jesus is the leader. Jesus said in such words to the first pope who was named Peter, which means rock and told Peter, who was a pope that he is the rock on Erich the church was built.

    No more of you in regards to this, you don't even have a basic understanding of your religion.

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