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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    It doesn't take courage. It takes ignorance.

    It's irrational to be worried that one's heterosexual son isn't strong enough to not suck a dick if he is "pressured" to by gay boys/teens who are probably scared as hell to even come out of the closest.

    Pardon my crassness.
    Try to at least keep up now pay attention...........THEY ARE OUT OF THE CLOSET!!!!!!!!!!!! that is what this whole fuVking (pardon my french is about....
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    No, I just know kids. Look, there are plenty of kids/young adults who are proud to wear the label of "homosexual." Many of these kids aren't. It's just cool. If there are as many homosexuals on college campuses who proudly wear the label, the human race is in big trouble. Ha! (I get this info from my nieces, by the way.) Kids have been "playing doctor" since the beginning of time. I have no problem with homosexuals. I don't think they're pedophiles. I think people that think that are stupid ****ing idiots. I have to repeat: It's not my job to be politically correct when raising my children. It's my job to do what I think is best. "Openly gay" has a connotation that makes me uncomfortable -- that's why I've posted the way I have. 13- 14- 15-year-olds who are openly gay? They make me uncomfortable. That's all. And, as a parent, that's my job.
    Nobody's talking about political correctness. People are talking about rationality and knowledge. When you are rational about and knowledgeable of homosexuality and teen sexual experimentation, then you realize that there is nothing to "fear" about one's straight son being alone with other gay people his age simply because they are gay.

    And "openly gay" doesn't have an inherent connotation. The term is used to refer to gay people who do not hide their sexuality, period. Whatever else you read into that term is your own prejudice.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Oh, please. This post is not ABOUT being pressured by "gay boys/teens who are scared as hell to even come out of the closet." This post is about those boys being openly gay. That, in itself, would be odd, in my opinion. But that's the poll.
    I feel more bad about the openly gay kid who is probably going to be bullied and made fun of.

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    A kid is far more likely to "do something stupid" in almost every other situation. If you truly do not want your kids to not do something stupid, school is out, going to the local park unsupervised is way out, playing with friends without direct supervision(actually being in the presence of the kid, not watching tv in another room), God forbid going to play at a friend's house.

    The do something stupid is just an excuse for irrational emotional reaction.
    Maybe your kids not mine............Had 4 and never had to worry about them except maybe my sons getting hurt playing high school football
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    I know all of that and that doesnt change my mind that theres absolutely no logic reason to be worried about kids or leaders SOLELY because they are gay.

    SO again i have to ask, what am i missing.

    What are these "unpleasant" experiences that you speak of and how are they dramatically increased by the presence of "gays" as supposed to their non-presence (or better yet OPEN presence)
    As I've said six times in this thread, the key words in the poll are "openly gay." First of all, it's odd that young kids at camp would be openly gay. Secondly, if my son is put into a position where he is manipulated to have boy-on-boy sex, you tell me: How is that different from child sexual abuse? The age of the perp?? And we, as a society, believe there is hardly a more heinous crime insofar as after-effects are concerned.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Try to at least keep up now pay attention...........THEY ARE OUT OF THE CLOSET!!!!!!!!!!!! that is what this whole fuVking (pardon my french is about....
    It's rich telling me to "keep up" when this entire thread and all of your arguments thus far have been based in archaic, out dated, ignorance-based ideas that have no place in a modern society. But regardless, it doesn't even matter if they're in or out of the closet. The post you praised is based in ignorance NOT courage. Far too often people mix up the two. It isn't "courageous" to say something stupid because it's unpopular.

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Maybe your kids not mine............Had 4 and never had to worry about them except maybe my sons getting hurt playing high school football
    So, you're kids are perfectly fine resisting peer pressure from drugs, alcohol, social groups, etc, but just not gay people?

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Nobody's talking about political correctness. People are talking about rationality and knowledge. When you are rational about and knowledge of homosexuality and teen sexual experimentation, then you realize that there is nothing to "fear" about one's straight son being alone with other gay people his age simply because they are gay.

    And "openly gay" doesn't have an inherent connotation. The term is used to refer to gay people who do not hide their sexuality, period. Whatever else you read into that term is your own prejudice.
    You are always quick to play the prejudice card, TPD. Tiring. If you trust kids 10-11-12 years old who openly announce their sexuality -- the ages most commonly at camp, that's on you. I don't. That doesn't make me prejudiced. It doesn't make me ignorant. It makes me cautious.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    I feel more bad about the openly gay kid who is probably going to be bullied and made fun of.
    There. We have our common ground. I completely agree.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    As I've said six times in this thread, the key words in the poll are "openly gay." First of all, it's odd that young kids at camp would be openly gay. Secondly, if my son is put into a position where he is manipulated to have boy-on-boy sex, you tell me: How is that different from child sexual abuse? The age of the perp?? And we, as a society, believe there is hardly a more heinous crime insofar as after-effects are concerned.
    There is that thought again where you believe that just because someone is gay that they would manipulate someone into sex, that is very wrong to assume that.
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