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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I never implied each and every young person might be thusly influenced, only the possibility than some might. Every student in school doesn't want to grow up to be a teacher although all have teachers. However, some are made such a profound impact upon that a few follow in their footsteps.
    That is a conscience choice though, your sexuality is not.

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I never implied each and every young person might be thusly influenced, only the possibility than some might. Every student in school doesn't want to grow up to be a teacher although all have teachers. However, some are made such a profound impact upon that a few follow in their footsteps.
    Just thinking here, I bet there are plenty of openly gay teachers working.

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    Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19]

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    That is a conscience choice though, your sexuality is not.
    I'm Bi, you can't choose who you fall for but you can pick girls or guys (any one that claims to have 'converted back to straight' is Bi rather than fully gay). Though if you are fully gay or straight, you can't pick against how you are geared biologically (and mentally) to be attracted to.

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    That is a conscience choice though, your sexuality is not.
    Environment and sexual orientation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    That is a conscience choice though, your sexuality is not.
    I once thought that it was a choice myself, but having close friends who are gay I came to realize that it's not. Close Lesbian friend of mine discussed it she put it this way. Would one choose a lifestyle that would put you in a class of people that you're a social outcast and considered a deviant? That is when I had my epiphany and got a clue.

    Let me put it to you this way, I'm attracted to the opposite sex and to me sex with the same sex is revolting. Guess what? That's the same for them when it comes to the opposite sex.

    Put yourself in their shoes, what if society considered heterosexuality deviant the norm.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Nothing in that article supports the notion that sexuality is a conscious choice, nor does it support your contention that an otherwise (or previously) straight adolescent boy would suddenly develop homosexual tendencies simply by being around a known homosexual.

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Nothing in that article supports the notion that sexuality is a conscious choice, nor does it support your contention that an otherwise (or previously) straight adolescent boy would suddenly develop homosexual tendencies simply by being around a known homosexual.
    But it does suggest the possibilities of factors other than simply "being born that way" play some role in sexual orientation albeit not necessarily "suddenly" as you've described. Therefore, if factors like home environment could play a role, it only stands to reason other environmental factors could also play a role.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I think Navy Pride is from a generation that simply does not know any better. But I think, in his heart of hearts, he is a good person underneath all the ignorance. We are all products of our environment.
    Then therefore Navy Pride is not a good person. He hasn't changed his views since Whistlestopper. That was 2003. It's 2013. The man has some of the worst beliefs ever and for a decade was pointed out why he was wrong. He did not change any of them.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    The thing is my lifestyle isn't that much different than yours. I wake in the morning, go to work, go home to my family, talk about things with my boy, go to bed with my lover.

    His penis doesn't make my "lifestyle" any different. So I don't know what you mean, aside from maybe a gay man telling a kid that he is gay if the kid asks, perhaps talking to the kid if the kid feels he may be gay.

    Your fear that the gay people secretly run around and convert or attempt to convert the straight people is really bizarre. First if a gay guy can convert a straight guy just by being near him, I would say that the straight guy isn't really straight.

    I worked for the boy scouts professionally for years, taking at camps, I worked with youth staff, I worked with youth, and never did I really even think about having sex with the youth, really kids don't do it for me, I like men not boys. I like women, not girls.

    Gay people are not out of control perverts. Do you have an urge to screw 12 year old girls when you are around them?

    I guess you have forgotten about the daisy chain of gays up to 100 people in the eighties prior to AIDS........
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    No. I'm saying that a person is "bad," not for his thoughts, but for his actions. If you asked most males over 70, "Do you accept homosexuality?" I think you'd hear the majority of them saying, "Absolutely not." This is a major change in our culture. That you cannot see that makes you intolerant.

    I love guys with blue eyes, by the way.
    How do you explain the fact that 32 states out of 33 have banned gay marriage?
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