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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You might not like it my left wing friend but the BSA are a private organization and can deny membership to anyonr they see fit.
    And they can be criticized for it by their own members.

    I would ban them because of their lifestyle and what they might do to young impressionable boys......... I feel confident the BSA will do the right thing.
    What lifestyle? Gays live a life that is essentially the same as everyone else's.

    And the BSA doesn't have the history of doing the right thing. Two decades of hiding pedophiles from police.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No I don't NP. Why are you afraid to state your concerns clearly and openly.
    #1 reason: He thinks they're icky.

    Other than that, no actual reason.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I would ban them because of their lifestyle and what they might do to young impressionable boys......... I feel confident the BSA will do the right thing.
    "Their lifestyle"

    Hmmm...

    I daresay that if you met my brother you would probably say his lifestyle is pretty much like any other man...except that he shares his life with a man instead of a woman.

    Heck, I think you would enjoy having a beer with my brother.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Navy Pride's vast ignorance on everything gay leads him to believe that this (but much more extreme) is EVERY gay male:





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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Navy Pride's vast ignorance on everything gay leads him to believe that this (but much more extreme) is EVERY gay male:





    but never a guy like this fellow

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    but never a guy like this fellow

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    And certainly NEVER like this:




    I don't think either one of those guys in my picture is gay.....but you never know now do you....

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I feel confident the BSA will do the right thing.
    They will...and once again, you will be on the wrong side of history...on the outside looking in.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    When I was a cub scout we had a den mother. I'm pretty sure that's why I am straight today.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Okay Navy Pride,

    here's one for you:

    Would you be okay with sending your son to a scouting event knowing that the BSA for two decades systematically shuffled pedophiles around troops Catholic Church Style and hid them from the police?

    Pedophiles are overwhelmingly straight males. So statistically, your kid would be safer from pedophilia with homosexual scout leaders.
    I'm not Catholic but I'll weigh in on this on since sadly this sort of thing has also gone on at other Churches.

    Christians (at least many of them) don't become involved in Church life because they see it as a recreational opportunity but rather part of an overall spiritual disciple out of obedience to a God Christians think of as not only their Father but also their Master. Many Christians consider it to be a directive of God for those who have made commitments to live for Him, to be involved in Church life as expressed in the Bible. This however does not mean God requires Christians to place their children in danger of fake Christians, who the Bible also says are also among the Church in large numbers, some of whom might be sexual predators. For me, I would not be completely trusting. If I have to leave my kid someplace, I'd be very cautious about it including at Church. I'd want to know that there are redundant safeguards in place including background checks for those who are working with kids. I'd want to know that policies are in place were no child is allowed to be left alone with a single adult but only groups of Children my be left with at least 2 adult workers, preferably 3 or more. I'd want open door policies so that at any time as a parent I could walk in on the children's classes and see how my child was doing. I'd prefer CCTV where if I want parents can log in on their smart phones and see how the class was going. Nobody from church is allowed to give expressions of affection (hugs and kisses) to my child at any time. If a church worker wants to give a child a treat of gift, they must give it to the parent who then may give it to the child if they want.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Its really quite simple.........When my family goes to mass we don't sleep with the priest...........with a gay scoutmaster or scout they might sleep in the same tent. I hope that explains it for you.
    It is your fear that homosexuality is contagious? You fear that a sexual assault may occur? I submit, sir, that far more sexual assaults have been committed by clergy than BSA yet you defend the Catholic church and do not hold them to the same standards.

    I do understand where you are coming from though. Your generation has been conditioned to fear gays. You were taught that it is a mental disorder and assumingly contagious. That doesn't make you a bad person. Just ill-informed.

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