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    re: Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

    My answer would be very dependent on the circumstances--ages, is the counselor openly gay or just other campers, etc.

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    re: Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    My answer would be very dependent on the circumstances--ages, is the counselor openly gay or just other campers, etc.
    Mine as well, the camp leader's rep, standing in the community as well

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    re: Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Thank you for your rewording, Navy Pride.

    I voted yes. If the leader was gay, it wouldn't bother me. It might bother me, however, if (and you used the plural, don't forget) a number of the young boys were openly gay....or if a number of the leaders were openly gay. It would depend on my son's age.

    My job with my child is not to be politically correct.

    Edit: I would be more concerned about the boys themselves than the leaders, actually.
    I voted no and it is because of the age factor. A boy or girl 10-15 years old is very moldable. I don't think gay is an inherited trait so I must presume it is learned, even if the learning is subliminal. I wouldn't want my child to think the only way you know if you are gay is if you try it and don't like it. Put yourself back in your pubescent mindset and then answer.

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    re: Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I voted no and it is because of the age factor. A boy or girl 10-15 years old is very moldable. I don't think gay is an inherited trait so I must presume it is learned, even if the learning is subliminal. I wouldn't want my child to think the only way you know if you are gay is if you try it and don't like it. Put yourself back in your pubescent mindset and then answer.
    I don't disagree. I wouldn't automatically say no, but it would give me pause. Kids experiment. Kids can get screwed up by experimenting. I'm not worried about pedophilia -- I'm worried about the natural curiosity kids have. Peer pressure is huge. Wanting to "fit in" is huge. Making good decisions is sometimes hard when we're young. And dealing appropriately with an experiment isn't always in a young kid's toolbox.
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    re: Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I voted no and it is because of the age factor. A boy or girl 10-15 years old is very moldable. I don't think gay is an inherited trait so I must presume it is learned, even if the learning is subliminal. I wouldn't want my child to think the only way you know if you are gay is if you try it and don't like it. Put yourself back in your pubescent mindset and then answer.
    Ok - well - belief be damned. You cannot convince someone to 'act' gay and then 'love' one of the same gender - it doesn't work that way. People either are or they aren't. Because if that was the CASE then no one would be gay! Straight couples would not possibly raise a child and then have that child tell them they're gay.

    But we have gay people raised by straight couples all the time . . . and straight kids are raised by gays, too. . . and no one who ever married into a heterosexual relationship would ever 'come out of the closet' - because moldability and all: they'd just turn straight!

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    re: Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Ok - well - belief be damned. You cannot convince someone to 'act' gay and then 'love' one of the same gender - it doesn't work that way. People either are or they aren't. Because if that was the CASE then no one would be gay! Straight couples would not possibly raise a child and then have that child tell them they're gay.

    But we have gay people raised by straight couples all the time . . . and straight kids are raised by gays, too.

    (wow - I know! - this logic and junk)
    I completely understand this poster's concern. I wouldn't be concerned it would "turn my son gay." I'd be concerned it would end up a haunting experience for him if he made the wrong choice. That's a mom's job -- to protect her kids from those things that might be emotionally damaging to them. I wouldn't trust an eight- or ten-year-old with that decision.
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    re: Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

    Poll: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members?

    As opposed to camps where their are certain members who preach non-stop antigay arguments who themselves are closet gays?

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    re: Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

    Former [[company-I-worked-for]]] day camp counselor in a conservative, suburban area where the camp had about 300 kids aged 5-12. We had maybe about 40 staff members, 5 were openly (or tellingly) gay. Four men, one woman. Going by the how many I know in the LGBT community that were camp counselors, that's a fairly average ratio.

    My opinion: I think you've got to be couple of bricks short of a full load if you think that a gay man is somehow different than a straight man.
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    re: Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I wouldn't want my child to think the only way you know if you are gay is if you try it and don't like it.
    Literally no one in the entire history of the human race has ever thought that. But even if they did, what's the harm in trying? No one ever suggests that a gay person having a heterosexual relationship before coming out is harmful, so why would the inverse be true?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't disagree. I wouldn't automatically say no, but it would give me pause. Kids experiment. Kids can get screwed up by experimenting. I'm not worried about pedophilia -- I'm worried about the natural curiosity kids have. Peer pressure is huge. Wanting to "fit in" is huge. Making good decisions is sometimes hard when we're young. And dealing appropriately with an experiment isn't always in a young kid's toolbox.
    Again, how would experimentation be bad?
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    re: Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I completely understand this poster's concern. I wouldn't be concerned it would "turn my son gay." I'd be concerned it would end up a haunting experience for him if he made the wrong choice. That's a mom's job -- to protect her kids from those things that might be emotionally damaging to them. I wouldn't trust an eight- or ten-year-old with that decision.
    I worry about things like: drug habits, criminal history, emotional state, common sense and reasoning amid dangerous situations, the ability to keep a group of children under control, trust - like 'do I trust this individual to save my child's life if he was in danger?' . . . and so on.

    I am a hover mother often accused of being smothering and over bearing . . . 'finds my husband attractive' does not rank on my lengthy lists of concerns.

    Because damn - he is a sexy beast, I tell ya

    I took my daughter out of her girl scout troop because I didn't trust her leader - who was married/straight/had kids . . . because she smoked around the kids like she was a chimney and they were carbon filters. She was an idiot who obviously couldn't put aside her own selfish interests for the sake of her children and others.
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