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    re: Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

    Yes, I'd allow him to go. There's probably at least one openly gay person at his school these days, so what's the difference?
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    re: Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

    Emotions aside, does anybody think being public about one's homosexual orientation very well might embolden them to be more likely to express that orientation in the form of overtures since there's nothing to hide? I'm heterosexual. When I was a teenager it was pretty much known by everyone who knew me, I liked girls. Part and parcel of that was I occasionally flirted with and made advances of various types to the young ladies in my peer group, yet being more of a gentleman than most other guys, to be honest. A big difference however is I was not allowed to sleep alone with them in tents nor did the girls' parents feel compelled to make their daughters spend the night with me under the stars out of the societal pressures of political correctness.
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    re: Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I would agree - I'm no expert on the matter, but it seems there is a certain level of hysteria that developed beginning with the revelations about the Catholic Church and decades of both boys and girls, but mainly boys, being sexually abused by clergy. That led to the misconception that all gays are peodophiles and all clergy are gay and by extention any adult male who works or volunteers with children must be a gay peodophile.

    Such unhealthy suspicions have led to many men in today's society removing themselves from any situation where they may be falsely accused of inappropriate contact with children.
    I wonder do you have the stats breakdown on the priests who molested girls and boys? thanks
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    re: Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I wonder do you have the stats breakdown on the priests who molested girls and boys? thanks
    Well, considering that a large number of cases probably go unnoticed, an accurate stat would be impossible.

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    In fact the US Military paved the way for racial equality in America due in no small part to the skill and heroics of black servicemen that particularly came to light in WWII. White bomber pilots who wanted to live to see another day began requesting escorts by the all black Tuskegee Airmen due to their high level of skill and discipline. Black Pearl Harbor sailor Dorie Miller during the attack on Peal Harbor carried several wounded sailors to safety then on his own initiative manned an anti-aircraft machine gun and shot down several Japanese bombers with absolutely no training beyond doing laundry. This sort of military distinction caused the military rank, file and officers to press Congress to racially integrate. 30 years later, former Tuskegee Airman Chappie James became the first 4 Star General in the US Military, was given command of the North American Strategic Air Command with the responsibility of protecting the North American continent from a surprise Soviet attack and the only human being in America with standing authorization to launch a nuclear attack on another country without Presidential approval other than the President.

    I never had a problem with blacks in the military or BSA. In fact the Republican Party was the main reason the Civil Rights bill was passed....Most of the dems were from the south and wanted to reject the civil rights act. You never hear that side from the Liberial press.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Emotions aside, does anybody think being public about one's homosexual orientation very well might embolden them to be more likely to express that orientation in the form of overtures since there's nothing to hide? I'm heterosexual. When I was a teenager it was pretty much known by everyone who knew me, I liked girls. Part and parcel of that was I occasionally flirted with and made advances of various types to the young ladies in my peer group, yet being more of a gentleman than most other guys, to be honest. A big difference however is I was not allowed to sleep alone with them in tents nor did the girls' parents feel compelled to make them spend the night with me under the stars out of the societal pressures of political correctness.
    I'm admittedly a long time removed for my days of boy scouts and summer camp or camping but since when did camp counsellors or boy scout leaders, gay, straight or otherwise, start bedding down with the kids? That's just a non-starter unless someone can prove otherwise.

    If you're talking about a child being gay - guess what - not many children are sophisticated enough to know that they are gay until they become sexually aware - and besides, those who are most adamantly opposed to gays and the gay lifestyle refuse to accept that being gay may be innate and not learned behavior so I don't get that one either.

    This doesn't mean that parents shouldn't drum into their child's head on a regular basis that their body belongs to them and they should not allow any person, regardless of gender, to touch them in any way they don't like or feel totally comfortable with.

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I wonder do you have the stats breakdown on the priests who molested girls and boys? thanks
    According to Wiki, of the 10,667 reported victims between 1950 and 2002, 81% were male.

    Catholic sex abuse cases - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    According to the National Center for Victims of Crime, 1 in 5 girls and 1 in 20 boys are victims of sexual abuse at some point.

    -http://www.victimsofcrime.org/news-center/reporter-resources/child-sexual-abuse/child-sexual-abuse-statistics

    So the Catholic Church molestations were statistically way, way off the national average.

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    Well, considering that a large number of cases probably go unnoticed, an accurate stat would be impossible.
    Well maybe the stats where the priests were caught.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I wonder do you have the stats breakdown on the priests who molested girls and boys? thanks
    No, I don't - the reference to sexually abusing girls comes mainly from state run religious schools for orphans and for native children that were located in many parts of northern Canada into the mid-1900s.

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Considering homosexuality isn't infectious, I don't know why it would matter.



    Not being terrified of gay people doesn't make us leftists. It makes us not you.
    If you notice the poll is pretty much divided by Conservtive and Liberal and by the breakdown in DP.
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