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Thread: Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1642]

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    "Salvation", now thgat's an interesting word. IMO, it gives people the right to sin without going to hell. How convienent.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Uhhhhhh....no...IMHO, of course. I'm staying in Texas, which runs a close 2nd to hell with Perry as governor.
    You Texans aren't going to try to foist him off on the rest of the country again, are you?
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    You Texans aren't going to try to foist him off on the rest of the country again, are you?
    I wouldn't wish that off on any country....

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    Yes, actually WE do, and I have.....many times, from many different translations.....
    No never once from proper translation. Again forget your bias and what the cloaks tell you to think and use your mind independently as God intended and reread very carefully.

    Or better yet post some biblical verses that support this claim, refrain from using the living translation, it isn't a translation but an adulteration.

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    No never once from proper translation. Again forget your bias and what the cloaks tell you to think and use your mind independently as God intended and reread very carefully.

    Or better yet post some biblical verses that support this claim, refrain from using the living translation, it isn't a translation but an adulteration.
    In Paul's letter to the Romans, Chapter 1, verses 26-27, he describes homosexual acts among both men and women clearly in ANY and ALL translations that I have read.....including Greek and Hebrew text. Here it is in the widely acepted English Standard Version:

    26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.



    God "gave them over" to their lustful passions.......meaning He separated Himself from them.........the very definition of "sin" is that which "misses the Mark" or separates us from God... In the original Greek text the term for "sin" is actually hamartia......which translates "missing the mark", as in archery.
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    Re: Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1

    There is nothing wrong with gays and no reason you can't be gay. That isn't my place to tell you what is right and what is wrong. Despite this, I wouldn't feel comfortable sending my son to a camp where I know there will be gay people.

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    In Paul's letter to the Romans, Chapter 1, verses 26-27, he describes homosexual acts among both men and women clearly in ANY and ALL translations that I have read.....including Greek and Hebrew text. Here it is in the widely acepted English Standard Version:
    Clearly it describes heterosexual women cheating on their husbands with women. Giving up what comes naturally to a heterosexual is engaging in homosexuality. A homosexual acting as a heterosexual is the same sin.

    You didn't read carefully.

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature;
    So straight women having gay sex Iss what we are discussing here. Gay women however are naturally attracted to the same gender, so this verse only applies to heterosexual, homosexuals are not mentioned

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
    Again this passage is only referring to heterosexuals.

    Remember when I said to read carefully, you are interpreting this through the prism of bias. Homosexuality comes natural to homosexuals.

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    God "gave them over" to their lustful passions.......meaning He separated Himself from them.........the very definition of "sin" is that which "misses the Mark" or separates us from God... In the original Greek text the term for "sin" is actually hamartia......which translates "missing the mark", as in archery.
    But as I explained above the passage is about heterosexuals who cheat on their spouses with the same gender. Nothing mentioned about homosexuals at all.

    Like I said the Bible really never even mentions homosexuals in the least

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 [I]and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their :
    Expecting a homosexual person to give up their natural relationships with their own gender to engage in relations that go against their nature?

    The Bible explicitly speaks against that. It is a sin by these passages for a person to go against their nature.

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    Re: Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1

    Quote Originally Posted by libertarian2016 View Post
    There is nothing wrong with gays and no reason you can't be gay. That isn't my place to tell you what is right and what is wrong. Despite this, I wouldn't feel comfortable sending my son to a camp where I know there will be gay people.
    Are you worried that they will influence your son to be gay?

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    Re: Would you let your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19,1

    Quote Originally Posted by libertarian2016 View Post
    There is nothing wrong with gays and no reason you can't be gay. That isn't my place to tell you what is right and what is wrong. Despite this, I wouldn't feel comfortable sending my son to a camp where I know there will be gay people.
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