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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay memb

    Are there a lot of 9 year old kids who define themselves as gay or something? Why even bring up the subject?
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Dpetty View Post
    If your perception of right and wrong is based on what society tells you is socially acceptable and not socially acceptable, then you are right, but some people dont base their values on societal norms.” Right and wrong”, and “socially acceptable” aren’t the same things.
    I didn't say it was based only on what society tells me, but society may influence me if someone makes a good argument for why something isn't a sin. Then, yes I could start seeing something as right instead of wrong.

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Sometimes abstract thought is too much for some. They don't seem to be able to comprehend general ideas. They need everything chewed out for them. They then pass that kind of idea analysis to their children.
    Dont try to back pedal by calling what you said about your poor daughter "abstract".


    You do realize that repression of thought is pretty much abhorred by child psychologists whereas choice allowance has been universally prescribed by even religious psychologists?
    I never said anything about repression. I made my own choices growing up, they just didnt include sex at an early age. That doesnt make me a "prude" as you put it. It makes me different than you.


    So your kids will have two choices, either rebel (in a Krystal Palin sort of way at worst), or grow up conflicted not being able to decide for themselves what is right and wrong for them because as you claimed it's your role to 'teach' them that. Essentially, you're making them dependent on your moral belief system and not giving them the ability to actually draft their own because you think they're too naive and will probably end up as whores.
    Actually my kids will have a lot more choices than yours, because i will teach them that they dont have to go along with what society tells them to do. they can do whatever they want. Your telling your daughter she needs to be sexually curious and active to be a normal juvenile. By the way, if your daughter does follow your advice, then a whore is exactly what she will be. Im not insulting your daughter ( I actually pity her for growing up in your presence ) im just pointing out the meaning of the word whore.

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by afr0byte View Post
    I didn't say it was based only on what society tells me,
    The current version of right and wrong is the only version of right and wrong. Unless you live in a vacuum your perception of right and wrong is always going to be shaded, to some degree, by your society.
    but society may influence me if someone makes a good argument for why something isn't a sin. Then, yes I could start seeing something as right instead of wrong.
    The Current version is not the only version. The current version of what is socially acceptable says homosexuality is fine, but that doesnt mean everyone agrees that its right.

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Dpetty View Post
    The Current version is not the only version. The current version of what is socially acceptable says homosexuality is fine, but that doesnt mean everyone agrees that its right.
    I didn't say the current version was the same for everyone. I'm sure your views of right and wrong don't perfectly match the Bible.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay memb

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Are there a lot of 9 year old kids who define themselves as gay or something? Why even bring up the subject?
    It isn't about protecting kids from danger it's about protecting kids from knowledge. which I understand, having a kid of my own I would very much like to preserve his innocence. he is 14 so most of his child like innocence is lost.

    In the presence of homosexuality with a child there is a possibility that you will have to explain that to your child. The common misconception is that the child may be influenced into being gay.

    Being in the presence of someone doesn't expose a child to that persons resume of sin. Frankly you wouldn't know I was gay unless you asked or saw me with my lover.

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by afr0byte View Post
    I didn't say the current version was the same for everyone. I'm sure your views of right and wrong don't perfectly match the Bible.
    I suppose it would depend on where in the Bible your talking about.

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay memb

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    It isn't about protecting kids from danger it's about protecting kids from knowledge. which I understand, having a kid of my own I would very much like to preserve his innocence. he is 14 so most of his child like innocence is lost.

    In the presence of homosexuality with a child there is a possibility that you will have to explain that to your child. The common misconception is that the child may be influenced into being gay.

    Being in the presence of someone doesn't expose a child to that persons resume of sin. Frankly you wouldn't know I was gay unless you asked or saw me with my lover.
    Hey, you're preaching to the choir broheim. My kid at 5 already knows about homosexuality in simple term. My sister has a girlfriend. So I've explained why they're always together. She couldn't care less as much as her aunt still buys her candy. Homophobia is taught, kids aren't naturally homophobic.
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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    I didn't say that...I said it was my job as a mother to try to protect my children from potential danger...
    so do you see all gay males a danger?

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    Re: Would you allow your son to go to camp where there were openly gay members? [W:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Dpetty View Post
    Dont try to back pedal by calling what you said about your poor daughter "abstract".
    Your question was whether I would encourage a specific type of behavior. I said "Not really" and explained why. Good try?

    I never said anything about repression.
    And yet, that's exactly what your parenting technique entails. This is wrong, that is right. Your kids have no say in the matter. Or do they?

    This statement:

    Actually my kids will have a lot more choices than yours, because i will teach them that they dont have to go along with what society tells them to do. they can do whatever they want.
    And this statement:

    I sure as hell wouldnt let them go camping together.
    Are contradictory.
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