View Poll Results: Are spy/assassinatin drones morally acceptable?

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Thread: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Yes as long as it is not used domestically.
    It will be. Government expands power, it will be no different here.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    the problem with this is that you are basing your opinion on Hollywood movies, where every mission goes like clockwork and nobody on the good side ever dies because the guys on the other side are all idiots.

    Then there's the real world....
    No...I am basing this off the fact that more often than not...the Special Forces get the job done properly. They are the best trained military force in the world. They are smart, and calculated. They get in, get the job done, and get out with as little collateral damage as possible. Drones don't have that capability and kill anything within the area.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It will be. Government expands power, it will be no different here.
    I imagine the only reason my town would have them would be for the zoning Nazi's to be able to spy more closely on that which they cannot see from the streets, but of course you are right, just not so sure about the assassination being part of that when used domestically.

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    No...I am basing this off the fact that more often than not...the Special Forces get the job done properly. They are the best trained military force in the world. They are smart, and calculated. They get in, get the job done, and get out with as little collateral damage as possible. Drones don't have that capability and kill anything within the area.
    Which 'Special Forces'? What units? For what mission? In case you haven't noticed special forces are not supermen. We have lost scores of such men in helicopter crashes, shoot downs, and other terrible mishaps. Even our raid into Abottabad nearly lost an entire helicopter of our best. Navy SEALS can die, they can **** up, they can be overwhelmed. Are they amazing? Absolutely. But every single deployment entails potentially mortal risks, and that sky-rockets when you talk about cross-border raids. Drones are not only the superior alternative in terms of safeguarding lives, they are superior in terms of their utility to completing the mission and objective and limiting civilian casualties.

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It will be. Government expands power, it will be no different here.
    When was the last time you saw an F-16 engaged in police actions in the US? I'm not saying drones wont be re-purposed for civilian and police action in the US, they already have to some degree, but I'd be surprised if it went as far as some people seem to anticipate.

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    I think that as part of a war effort in foreign countries, I don't have a problem with using drones.

    Domestically, I do have a problem with.


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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    No...I am basing this off the fact that more often than not...the Special Forces get the job done properly. They are the best trained military force in the world. They are smart, and calculated. They get in, get the job done, and get out with as little collateral damage as possible. Drones don't have that capability and kill anything within the area.
    Nonsense. Drones are capable of scanning vast areas to spot a target and then immediately take it out. The UBL raid took weeks of planning and risked more lives than it saved, the added risk was taken only to allow proof that UBL was eliminated (and where). For the average terrorist cockroach that is neither required nor desired, that option is reserved for making special political statements.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I imagine the only reason my town would have them would be for the zoning Nazi's to be able to spy more closely on that which they cannot see from the streets, but of course you are right, just not so sure about the assassination being part of that when used domestically.
    Maybe, maybe not. I'd think things such as Ruby Ridge would be drones and I can zee the government using school shootings as an excuse as well.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Aren't assassinations by drones a form of terrorism?
    That was what I meant by "poetic justice" and just like the jihadis snuck up on the WTC towers, the drone slips a bomb into the Jihadi's underwear. Ergo, in a battle against known terrorist terrority and unknown individual terrorists, it resolves the ambiguity of Rumsfeld's known unknowns. Outside of that environment, the slippery slope gets iced up a bit.

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It will be. Government expands power, it will be no different here.
    It is easier to move forward with such things than it is to move back.

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