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Thread: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I understand that, a drone's use on domestic soil would have to occur under the right circumstances. But I wouldn't rule it out just because it is domestic soil. We Americans are a finicky bunch when it comes to security. If we see something that is considered heavy handed, use of too much power, we get all over the police or in this case, probably the military and the president who authorized it. But if the terrorist happens to escape and blows something up, those same Americans would be hollering and jumping up and down demanding to know why more force wasn’t used.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    If the Arabs are not killing each other fast enough, then the use of the drones is sorely needed. If they will cooperate with our policies and kill each other in great numbers and at higher rates of speed than usual, then the drones are a redundancy, but perhaps a needed one for the specific target that is stubbornly avoiding the crosshairs.

    It seems a little odd that the Leftists who would shed crocodile tears for the imprisoned in Gitmo are silent on the execution absent due process for the assassinated Arabs and Islamists. Maybe only odd if one is to expect an even handed, apolitical approach to moral judgements.

    There is a strange silence on the lack of due process and the incursion into sovereign states against whom we are not at war and against whom we impudently ply this crime.
    Maybe those "Leftists" aren't interested in having that conversation with someone so interested in how fast "the Arabs" are killing each other.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    You have no idea whether the amount of collateral damage is 'ridiculous' or not. If you want to take a look at 'ridiculous' collateral damage, look at any German or Japanese city after World War II. That's collateral damage.
    Ooo, so as long as we're not using nukes, there's no collateral damage to worry about? Most excellent!
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Drones are being used frequently for assassinations , attacks, spying, etc. I'm really seeking opinions on the drones used for assassinations.

    Personally, I approve of this method against proven "terrorists," and consider it poetic justice because of the nature of their work where they blend back into their normal society. The spy/attack drone can spot this behaviour and resolve the ambiguity with extreme prejudice. I'm OK with that and think it a clever solution to the difficulty of identifying terrorists. I'm trying to see if others agree with this position or even if I am missing some moral issue in the mental gymnastics.
    If they're going to kill a guy, they're going to kill the guy. Doesn't matter if it's done by a missile from a robot, or a bullet from a sniper's rifle. Now if you want to talk about the ethics of assassination, that's an entirely different topic altogether.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    If they're going to kill a guy, they're going to kill the guy. Doesn't matter if it's done by a missile from a robot, or a bullet from a sniper's rifle. Now if you want to talk about the ethics of assassination, that's an entirely different topic altogether.
    I think there's a difference. If you're going to invade a nation you haven't declared war on for the sole and express purpose of an extrajudicial execution, it seems to me like you should have some skin in the game. Using an unmanned robot doesn't qualify as skin.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    In my opinion, they're acceptable if used to defend your country. I don't agree with using them in countries we have no business being in (i.e. Yemen, Pakistan, etc.) but I'm fine with them being used in wars we're fighting.

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I think there's a difference. If you're going to invade a nation you haven't declared war on for the sole and express purpose of an extrajudicial execution, it seems to me like you should have some skin in the game. Using an unmanned robot doesn't qualify as skin.
    Better to lose an expendable machine than an irreplaceable life.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Better to lose an expendable machine than an irreplaceable life.
    No, I don't think it's better. I don't think it's okay to reach out and snuff someone in a country we're not even at war with without risking lives of our own.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    No, I don't think it's better. I don't think it's okay to reach out and snuff someone in a country we're not even at war with without risking lives of our own.
    That mentality may have worked decades ago, but **** changed and we adapted our strategies and weapons for the war we're fighting today, not a war we fought 60 years ago. You may as well be demanding that we go back to fighting in box formations with banners and drummer boys.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I think there's a difference. If you're going to invade a nation you haven't declared war on for the sole and express purpose of an extrajudicial execution, it seems to me like you should have some skin in the game. Using an unmanned robot doesn't qualify as skin.
    I don't think war should conform to romantic notions or masculine conceptions, the point of the state engaging in violence is to accomplish a political end. If we can accomplish that end without exposing any of our citizens to harm then we have made a significant advancement.

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