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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well then there's your answer.
    Yup, and that's why a drone strike became necessary.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    Yup, and that's why a drone strike became necessary.
    So the sovereignty of other nations is negligible according to you. Interesting take.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So the sovereignty of other nations is negligible according to you. Interesting take.
    Well, don't you think the sovereignty of a nation becomes negligible when they harbor a criminal (terrorist) who plots and organizes attacks the sovereignty of another nation? We had plenty of intelligence that explained exactly where he was yet Yemeni authorities could only say "whoopsy, couldn't get him." Had they apprehended someone they "knew" was planning violations against US sovereignty and simply handed him over, then Yemeni sovereignty wouldn't be at issue, would it? There would be no need for drone attacks, would there?

    Besides, Yemen should be used to this by now, given their patentable inability to capture terrorists on their own soil. Yemeni terrorists were violating Saudi Arabian sovereignty on a regular basis. Yemen, predictably, was completely ineffective at controlling the situation. So, predictably, Yemeni sovereignty was violated by Saudi Arabian airstrikes on terrorist bases that were extremely easy to find. When a country, quite obviously refuses to stop an internal threat from affecting other countries, they can hardly be surprised when other countries deal with the matter themselves.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    Well, don't you think the sovereignty of a nation becomes negligible when they harbor a criminal (terrorist) who plots and organizes attacks the sovereignty of another nation
    I think you do not quite understand the concept of sovereignty.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think you do not quite understand the concept of sovereignty.
    Well, let's see if you do. If a Mafia boss, incarcerated in prison, decides he hates you for some reason, and plots the murder of your family and successfully orders their killing, is he immune from prosecution? I mean, he specifically did no harm to your family and never violated the sanctity of your home. Is he therefore innocent?
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think you do not quite understand the concept of sovereignty.
    Who's violating sovereignty? It's well understood that the Yemen government and US are cooperating in conducting these strikes. The fact is the Yemen government has been waging its own bloody offensives against AQAP and related separatist movements in its southern provinces, which gained a foothold following the Arab Spring and the outsting of Saleh. President Hadi has openly voiced support of the US drone program. The Yemen government has been known to publicly take credit for attacks that were later shown to be US drone strikes.

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, more. When you put in place a procedure, like congress declaring war, you limited the flexibility, which in this case s a good thing. Killing innocent civilians should be more difficult and not less.
    There is a procedure. As I've already said I'm ok with making that procedure a bit more transparent and formal. But it will never be perfect. Like Congress' declaration to go to war, it will always be a judgment call, vulnerable to the risk of being the wrong call.

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    There is a procedure. As I've already said I'm ok with making that procedure a bit more transparent and formal. But it will never be perfect. Like Congress' declaration to go to war, it will always be a judgment call, vulnerable to the risk of being the wrong call.
    Do you know when the last time congress declared war? This nation hasn't fought a declared war since before I was born and I am an old foggie.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Do you know when the last time congress declared war? This nation hasn't fought a declared war since before I was born and I am an old foggie.
    Yes. That completely irrelevant tidbit of historical trivia was already brought up once in this thread.

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    There is a procedure. As I've already said I'm ok with making that procedure a bit more transparent and formal. But it will never be perfect. Like Congress' declaration to go to war, it will always be a judgment call, vulnerable to the risk of being the wrong call.
    Not a proper procedure. Every government and organization have procedures, but one that involves killing civilians in a country you are not at war with is not proper.

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