View Poll Results: Are spy/assassinatin drones morally acceptable?

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Thread: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Exactly!
    Exactly?

    You suggested they should "prove their case" and obtain a "warrant". What, specifically, did you mean by that? How does one go about "proving their case" and obtaining a "warrant"?

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    Exactly?

    You suggested they should "prove their case" and obtain a "warrant". What, specifically, did you mean by that? How does one go about "proving their case" and obtaining a "warrant"?
    I mean that the State is restricted in the force that it can use against its citizens and if it wishes to elicit force against the free exercise of the rights and liberties of the individual, it must first prove it's case. Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. That's what it means. Do you honestly need to be reminded?
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Or a declaration from Congress....but whatever makes the excuses for your running to government easier.
    Yes, Congress makes a judgement call on whether to go to war and kill lots of people.

    If the judgement is "yes", that war-granting judgement is known officially as a Declaration of War.

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    Yes, Congress makes a judgement call on whether to go to war and kill lots of people.

    If the judgement is "yes", that war-granting judgement is known officially as a Declaration of War.
    Which has not been issued since WWII
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I mean that the State is restricted in the force that it can use against its citizens and if it wishes to elicit force against the free exercise of the rights and liberties of the individual, it must first prove it's case. Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. That's what it means. Do you honestly need to be reminded?
    And which court did you have in mind when you suggested they "prove their case" and obtain a "warrant"?

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Which has not been issued since WWII
    ok


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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    And which court did you have in mind when you suggested they "prove their case" and obtain a "warrant"?
    Our courts. Seek extradition if necessary.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    Not anymore than war is. It's a judgement call.
    Yes, more. When you put in place a procedure, like congress declaring war, you limited the flexibility, which in this case s a good thing. Killing innocent civilians should be more difficult and not less.

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Our courts. Seek extradition if necessary.
    Did you really think we hadn't tried that?

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    SAN'A, Yemen (AP) Yemen would not hand over a U.S.-born, Al Qaeda-linked cleric to the United States because the country's law bans extradition of its citizens, a Yemeni official said Tuesday.
    [...]
    High on the list of U.S. concerns is that al-Awlaki, born in New Mexico to Yemeni parents, has used his fluent English and deep understanding of American culture to explain the philosophy of violent jihad to young Muslims in America and elsewhere in the West.

    Members of al-Awlaki's tribe deny he is connected to Al Qaeda despite last month's video posting featuring his calls for killing of Americans. In the 45-minute video, al-Awlaki said U.S. deaths are justified and encouraged
    Yemen Says It Would Not Extradite Al-Qaeda-Linked Cleric Al-Awlaki to U.S. | Fox News

    SANAA, Yemen, May 10 (UPI) -- Yemen will not extradite suspected terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki to the United States if he is captured, Foreign Minister Abu Bakr al-Qirbi said.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    Well then there's your answer.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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