View Poll Results: Are spy/assassinatin drones morally acceptable?

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Thread: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Obama's killing 16 year old American citizens without judicial review, and claiming he can put people in jail indefinitely, again based on his say so alone, just shows how far liberals are willing to become fascists, rather than run the risk of daring to be called "racists."

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thetexastrigger View Post
    As far as our government admits, we only hit our targets 3% of the time, the other 97% killing innocent people. .
    3% hit rate???!!! I disbelieve. Please provide a link.
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    Neither, they are pragmatic. I'd rather the US blow a few huts up then send 10,000 boots or even 10 SEALs to catch some guy in the middle of nowhere Pakistan. Cost > ideology at this point.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Neither, they are pragmatic. I'd rather the US blow a few huts up then send 10,000 boots or even 10 SEALs to catch some guy in the middle of nowhere Pakistan. Cost > ideology at this point.
    Put another way, one part of your ideology beats another part of your ideology.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Put another way, one part of your ideology beats another part of your ideology.
    What part beats which part? If it were up to me - we'd do neither. However as it's painfully obvious that the US must conduct some of these missions, we as well take the pragmatic route and make it as cheap as possible.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What part beats which part? If it were up to me - we'd do neither. However as it's painfully obvious that the US must conduct some of these missions, we as well take the pragmatic route and make it as cheap as possible.
    It just appeared to me that the part of your ideology which would say "do neither" was trumped by the part that wants any such missions to be done as economically as possible, since they are going to happen whether you like it or not. Perhaps beaten and/or trumped is not the most apt term...

    But then we all probably have views that conflict internally...
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Drones are being used frequently for assassinations , attacks, spying, etc. I'm really seeking opinions on the drones used for assassinations.

    Personally, I approve of this method against proven "terrorists," and consider it poetic justice because of the nature of their work where they blend back into their normal society. The spy/attack drone can spot this behaviour and resolve the ambiguity with extreme prejudice. I'm OK with that and think it a clever solution to the difficulty of identifying terrorists. I'm trying to see if others agree with this position or even if I am missing some moral issue in the mental gymnastics.
    I put "Yes, with explanation."

    I'm fine with drone strikes against military targets.

    But I'm not fine with drone strikes against suspects. Such things violate due process, as they are only suspects and not convicts.

    I also don't think the executive branch should have the sole authority to determine which drone strikes are legitimate, except for against military targets. That's far too much power in the hands of the executive official.

    And the power to determine the death of a man or a woman or a child without any check or balance in how that determination is made is the greatest step to tyranny there is.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Neither, they are pragmatic. I'd rather the US blow a few huts up then send 10,000 boots or even 10 SEALs to catch some guy in the middle of nowhere Pakistan. Cost > ideology at this point.
    Until foreign nations use the same policy against us or our allies.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Signature strikes, not just no, but **** no. We're making wild guesses as to who we're hitting with these strikes and end up killing mainly innocent civilians. It's both immoral and a violation of international law.

    Signature strikes are different from targeted strikes. In targeted ones, we know a specific terrorist is on the ground. Those I'm okay with provided the risk of civilian casualties is low.
    What do you think "signature" means in that term?

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The person I was responding to.
    However, no where did I say a thing about pilots versus drones. Why would you throw in something not argued?
    Yeah, you will notice that nowhere in there does it say "bombing". The vast majority of drones are used for collections, not kinetic targeting. And the reason I throw in pilots is because the use of planes for domestic collection is already widespread. But now that we are talking about moving from expensive planes and pilots to relatively cheaper drones who perform the same function, you seem to feel that this is a problem.

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