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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Is that not the definition of a state sponsor of terror? We pay Pakistan (and other corrupt nations) to be "our friend" while knowing full well that they revere these "terrorists".
    Ah, I think the agreement was that they NOT harbor terrorist. We had a business arrangement whereby they hand over terrorists they find in their territory, they welched on their half of it. If you fork over money for a hamburger and then you don't receive it, does that mean you planned along to just give up your money for no damn reason?
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    Ah, I think the agreement was that they NOT harbor terrorist. We had a business arrangement whereby they hand over terrorists they find in their territory, they welched on their half of it. If you fork over money for a hamburger and then you don't receive it, does that mean you planned along to just give up your money for no damn reason?
    This is exactly why Iran is racing to get a nuke. Then they too will become a "legitimate" US partner and get paid to make nice, just like Pakistan.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    This is exactly why Iran is racing to get a nuke. Then they too will become a "legitimate" US partner and get paid to make nice, just like Pakistan.
    Hmm. I don't think so. I think they want to be the regional leader. Standing up to the US makes them look tough. They hope that will win support and a following from the other countries in the region. It doesn't matter if they don't actually make a real nuke, just so the other countries believe they are. Kinda like their new stealth fighter.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    why is it better to have a collections platform that has a person piloting it inside v. in a control center?
    Perhaps you're missing that bombing domestically either way is wrong. You throw this in and you have to know that no where have I suggested what you do.

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Yes as long as it is not used domestically.
    As far as our government admits, we only hit our targets 3% of the time, the other 97% killing innocent people. These numbers seem to indicate that these strikes are not the "surgically accurate procedures" that Obama claims that they are. It feels like no matter which party holds the office, all that matters to them and the American people is that American innocents are not wrongfully murdered by these kinds of attacks. After all, its not like the U.S.'s own constitution says that "all men are created equal".

    Pardon my sarcasm, but I find it kind of unsettling when I hear people decry injustice domestically while ignoring it abroad. A human life in Iraq is worth no less than one in the states, which is why I found it funny that Obama supposedly shed tears at the news of the Sandy hook shootings while he authorizes far greater massacres on a near monthly basis in Pakistan. Hypocracy without equal, I think.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thetexastrigger View Post
    As far as our government admits, we only hit our targets 3% of the time, the other 97% killing innocent people. These numbers seem to indicate that these strikes are not the "surgically accurate procedures" that Obama claims that they are. It feels like no matter which party holds the office, all that matters to them and the American people is that American innocents are not wrongfully murdered by these kinds of attacks. After all, its not like the U.S.'s own constitution says that "all men are created equal".

    Pardon my sarcasm, but I find it kind of unsettling when I hear people decry injustice domestically while ignoring it abroad. A human life in Iraq is worth no less than one in the states, which is why I found it funny that Obama supposedly shed tears at the news of the Sandy hook shootings while he authorizes far greater massacres on a near monthly basis in Pakistan. Hypocracy without equal, I think.
    I am a little more pragmatic. If we have them, they are gonna get used on somebody and better them than us. I don't really condone how they seem to being used, but I am not going to condemn them on limited info either.

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I don't see our military and CIA as any less incompetent as the FBI at bringing a citizen into custody.
    I'm not following you.

    My point is that the FBI doesn't have access to Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, so I think the argument that it should be up to the FBI or police force to apprehend US citizens that are currently in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa is rather silly.

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Perhaps you're missing that bombing domestically either way is wrong. You throw this in and you have to know that no where have I suggested what you do.
    Who said we were bombing domestically? The percentage of drones that have the capability (much less the mission) to carry ordinance is incredibly small.




    I think, once again, you have stepped into the drone debate without fully understanding the topic you have chosen to discuss.

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    I have a problem with the assassination of US citizens without due process. I'd prefer to see public court hearings where their citizenship on grounds of treason is revoked first.

    I think any spy efforts on US citizens violate the 4th amendment. I understand its need as it relates to the War on Terror however and simply say if the US citizen is shown not to be a threat, notify the citizen and turn over all copies of non-classified data on them to be destroyed at their request.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Who said we were bombing domestically? The percentage of drones that have the capability (much less the mission) to carry ordinance is incredibly small.




    I think, once again, you have stepped into the drone debate without fully understanding the topic you have chosen to discuss.
    The person I was responding to.

    To those who say they don't want domestic drone use: It probably has, probably is, and definitely will happen.
    So to me the question in that are would appear to be not "do we allow", but rather "how do we limit/regulate, if at all."

    However, no where did I say a thing about pilots versus drones. Why would you throw in something not argued?
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