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Thread: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    The question should be ..
    Are we at war ?
    If so, why ?
    If we are "at war" then the moral issue is "out the door".
    IMO, we should NOT be at war, and we should not be using the drones...
    BUT, then it is a complex issue....define war....in todays term, not those of the dark ages.

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Yes.

    To those who say they don't want domestic drone use: It probably has, probably is, and definitely will happen.
    So to me the question in that are would appear to be not "do we allow", but rather "how do we limit/regulate, if at all."
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Signature strikes, not just no, but **** no. We're making wild guesses as to who we're hitting with these strikes and end up killing mainly innocent civilians. It's both immoral and a violation of international law.

    Signature strikes are different from targeted strikes. In targeted ones, we know a specific terrorist is on the ground. Those I'm okay with provided the risk of civilian casualties is low.

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    I did not intend my violation of airspace comment (attacking someone on another country's soil without permission) to trump the morality of killing a US citizen without due process; I was merely expanding the issue. I believe both are abhorrent.

    I also do not believe US exceptionalism includes the idea that we can do whatever the hell we want in another country then turn around and think another country acting the same is declaring war on us. We are but citizens of this world; we have to behave like citizens...Although we are free to protect our interests; we do not have absolute impunity for the ways we might do that.
    On the other hand, if a terrorist were living in the US and arranging the killings of civilians in another country, Yemen for instance, and their intelligence service said they knew he was hiding at 123 Center St. Kentucky, well then we'd snatch that guy up within the hour and turn him over to Yemeni authorities. Unfortunately, the reverse never happens no matter how nicely we ask. This places the US in the difficult predicament of knowing where a terrorist is located, but being denied the right to go get him, and receiving zero assistance from the country that harbors him. The "morally correct" thing to do is hand the killer over to the country that seeks him. Then drones wouldn't be necessary and we wouldn't have discussions about the "moral correctness" of using drones.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    That works well for citizens that are within reach of the FBI. What about citizens in hostile regions on foreign soil?
    I don't see our military and CIA as any less incompetent as the FBI at bringing a citizen into custody.
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    On the other hand, if a terrorist were living in the US and arranging the killings of civilians in another country, Yemen for instance, and their intelligence service said they knew he was hiding at 123 Center St. Kentucky, well then we'd snatch that guy up within the hour and turn him over to Yemeni authorities. Unfortunately, the reverse never happens no matter how nicely we ask. This places the US in the difficult predicament of knowing where a terrorist is located, but being denied the right to go get him, and receiving zero assistance from the country that harbors him. The "morally correct" thing to do is hand the killer over to the country that seeks him. Then drones wouldn't be necessary and we wouldn't have discussions about the "moral correctness" of using drones.
    Is that not the definition of a state sponsor of terror? We pay Pakistan (and other corrupt nations) to be "our friend" while knowing full well that they revere these "terrorists".
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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Yes.

    To those who say they don't want domestic drone use: It probably has, probably is, and definitely will happen.
    So to me the question in that are would appear to be not "do we allow", but rather "how do we limit/regulate, if at all."
    That is indeed the better question.

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Yes.

    To those who say they don't want domestic drone use: It probably has, probably is, and definitely will happen.
    So to me the question in that are would appear to be not "do we allow", but rather "how do we limit/regulate, if at all."
    Domestically, the answer is easy: ban the use.

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Threat groups? Geez, talk about newspeak.
    No, that's called "military speak"

    There used to be something in this country called due process.
    Yeah, and citizens of this nation in this nation rate it. Syrians who choose to launch explosively formed penetrators at supply convoys do not.

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    Re: Assassination Drones are OK or morally questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Domestically, the answer is easy: ban the use.
    why is it better to have a collections platform that has a person piloting it inside v. in a control center?

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