View Poll Results: What weapons should civilians not be able to own? (Select all you would ban)

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  • Tanks, Fighter jets, stinger missiles, and weapons of mass destruction

    13 76.47%
  • Any fully automatic firearm with more than a 30 round magazine

    6 35.29%
  • Any fully automatic firearm with more than a 20 round magazine

    4 23.53%
  • Any fully automatic firearm, regardless of magazine size

    7 41.18%
  • Any semi-automatic rifle that holds more than 30 rounds

    2 11.76%
  • Any semi-automatic pistol that holds more than 20 rounds

    2 11.76%
  • Any semi-automatic rifle that holds more than 10 rounds

    1 5.88%
  • Any semi-automatic pistol that holds more than 10 rounds

    1 5.88%
  • All firearms except revolvers and bolt-action rifles

    0 0%
  • All firearms except muskets

    0 0%
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Thread: What constitutes an "Assault Weapon"?

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    What constitutes an "Assault Weapon"?

    Most gun-control laws that politicians attempt to pass target guns which they define as "assault weapons".
    However, most times this rather nebulous definition includes semi-auto hunting rifles, certain handguns, and guns with rails along the top and bottom.

    So, I pose the question to you - What do you believe constitutes an "Assault Weapon"?
    E.G. What types of guns do you think civilians should not legally be able to purchase?

    A quick run-down on various gun types, for those not-in-the-know:

    - A FULLY-AUTOMATIC firearm (Aka a machine gun) is a weapon which fires continuously as long as the trigger is being held down until the magazine is empty. These are typically rifles, firing a moderate to large round, however, there are also many compact fully-automatic pistols on the market, such as the Uzi and G18. The modern military typically uses 3 rounds burst weapons - they fire 3 rounds each time the trigger is pulled. However, space for questions is limited in these poles, so I am grouping 3-round burst weapons in with full-auto weapons.

    FULLY AUTOMATIC FIREARMS CANNOT CURRENTLY BE PURCHASED BY CIVILIANS WITHOUT A SPECIAL PERMIT

    - A SEMI-AUTOMATIC firearm is a weapon which fires once every time you pull the trigger until the magazine is empty. This includes many rifles, such as the AR-15 and Ruger Mini-14 (Both of which are now banned by the recent AWB). Most pistols, such as the Glock and Colt 1911 are Semi-automatics.

    - A BOLT-ACTION rifle is a weapon which requires you to manually work the bolt to load a new round into the chamber each time you fire the rifle. These are most commonly used as hunting rifles.

    - A MUSKET is a black powder rifle which requires you to load it from the front of the barrel, typically requiring up to 2 - 3 minutes to load after each shot. Many people enjoy hunting with black powder rifles, however, I have never fired a black powder rifle, and as such I don't have much experience with them.


    Please note, due to limited question space I had to ignore many common weapon subcategories, such as: pump-action rifles / shotguns, bolt-action rifles without a magazine, lever-action rifles, bull-pup rifles, shotguns, large-caliber firearms, etc.

    If you find that your opinion is not represented among the possible answers, please choose the answer closest to, or above your preferred answer, and comment with more detail.


    -- Please excuse any factual errors, to the best of my knowledge, all the information I provided is accurate, but I'm only human --

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    Re: What constitutes an "Assault Weapon"?

    WMDs have no real value to an individual and do have interstate and international implications

    everything else is commonly issued to civilian police departments and thus are legitimately owned by other civilians for the same purpose cops are issued them



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    Re: What constitutes an "Assault Weapon"?

    There is no option that all of these weapons should be able to be owned by law abiding citizens.

    Right now all of the weapons listed except for the Stinger and WMD's can be legally owned by law abiding citizens.

    I know someone who does own a tank and there are hundreds of tanks owned by citizens.

    There are many civilians who do own and fly military jet fighters.

    Any law abiding U.S. citizen can legally purchase and possess a fully automatic machinegun from a sub machinegun to a .50 cal Browning M-2 heavy machinegun. All you have to do is pass a background check and pay a one time ATF tax. Here is the current on line auction taking place right now -> Machine Guns - Gun Auction - Machine Guns at GunBroker.com

    The problem now with the law on purchasing a full automatic machinegun which are known as transferable machineguns. That they had to be manufactured before 1986. This law should be repealed !

    The ATF report to Congress shows that there are over a 1/4 of a million fully automatic weapons legally owned by law abiding U.S. citizens. In the past 70 years, not one of these legally owned machineguns has ever been used in a crime, not once.

    My research shows that since 1920 not one tank owned by a civilian has ever been used in a crime. The only tank ever used in a crime was a M-60 tank stolen from an army reserve center in San Diego, Ca.

    No military jet fighter owned by a U.S. citizen civilian has ever been used in a crime.

    Liberals get their panties all tied up in a knot anytime they hear the word bayonet. They will classify a rifle with a bayonet lug as an assault rifle. The last person to be bayoneted in America was over 130 years ago. Some soldier stuck a bayonet in the back of some native America.

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    Re: What constitutes an "Assault Weapon"?

    Technically none of those things in the poll options. An assault weapon is a semi-automatic firearm(this includes revolver shotguns in some states) with certain cosmetic features that make the anti-2nd amendment crowd piss and **** their panties if you go by what the Brady says and any shotgun with a revolving cylinder in Diene Fienstiens proposed assault weapons ban.
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    Re: What constitutes an "Assault Weapon"?

    This poll didn't allow me to vote. I guess I'm going to have to pick something. I got it: muskets.

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    Re: What constitutes an "Assault Weapon"?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    This poll didn't allow me to vote. I guess I'm going to have to pick something. I got it: muskets.
    Nope, can't ban muskets and the ilk.

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    Re: What constitutes an "Assault Weapon"?

    WMD, obviously.

    Tanks, fighters... if fully armed rather than de-mil'd, certainly some serious regulation is in order. Ditto stinger missles and mounted machine guns, artillery, mortars.

    Full auto-capable infantry rifles... grey area, up for discussion... but really, since it is a common infantry small-arm it probably should be covered under the 2A. Some regulation, maybe like Class III weapons but without the antiquated requirement.

    Semi-autos are common arms and should not be regulated any more than they already are, magazine size ban is not justifiable as it isn't going to have any significant effect on those RARE crimes committed with such weapons.

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    Re: What constitutes an "Assault Weapon"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    WMD, obviously.

    Tanks, fighters... if fully armed rather than de-mil'd, certainly some serious regulation is in order. Ditto stinger missles and mounted machine guns, artillery, mortars.

    Full auto-capable infantry rifles... grey area, up for discussion... but really, since it is a common infantry small-arm it probably should be covered under the 2A. Some regulation, maybe like Class III weapons but without the antiquated requirement.

    Semi-autos are common arms and should not be regulated any more than they already are, magazine size ban is not justifiable as it isn't going to have any significant effect on those RARE crimes committed with such weapons.
    That's right about where I stand too.
    I kind of support background checks for full-auto weapons, but it would have to be defined in more detail.
    Everything else should be legal to own, and although I do understand doing background checks to make sure you're not selling guns to a psychopath or convicted murderer, doing these checks is not, in my opinion, Constitutional.

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    Re: What constitutes an "Assault Weapon"?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    This poll didn't allow me to vote. I guess I'm going to have to pick something. I got it: muskets.
    Only muskets should be banned, because they can be dangerous.
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    Re: What constitutes an "Assault Weapon"?

    There is no such things, its a political term who's meaning changes. I voted for the definition of an "Assault Rifle" because the only thing that matters is action, since all semi-autos can receive detachable magazines of any size.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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