View Poll Results: What weapons should civilians not be able to own? (Select all you would ban)

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  • Tanks, Fighter jets, stinger missiles, and weapons of mass destruction

    13 76.47%
  • Any fully automatic firearm with more than a 30 round magazine

    6 35.29%
  • Any fully automatic firearm with more than a 20 round magazine

    4 23.53%
  • Any fully automatic firearm, regardless of magazine size

    7 41.18%
  • Any semi-automatic rifle that holds more than 30 rounds

    2 11.76%
  • Any semi-automatic pistol that holds more than 20 rounds

    2 11.76%
  • Any semi-automatic rifle that holds more than 10 rounds

    1 5.88%
  • Any semi-automatic pistol that holds more than 10 rounds

    1 5.88%
  • All firearms except revolvers and bolt-action rifles

    0 0%
  • All firearms except muskets

    0 0%
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Thread: What constitutes an "Assault Weapon"?

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    Re: What constitutes an "Assault Weapon"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pr0metheus View Post
    That's right about where I stand too.
    I kind of support background checks for full-auto weapons, but it would have to be defined in more detail.
    Everything else should be legal to own, and although I do understand doing background checks to make sure you're not selling guns to a psychopath or convicted murderer, doing these checks is not, in my opinion, Constitutional.
    I'm willing to put up with NICS to buy from a dealer, as a compromise. I don't think it is strictly Constitutional under strict scrutiny, but that could be debated.

    The thing that gripes me is that the number of prosecutions and convictions for felons attempting to buy illegally is really tiny... they're not even enforcing what laws they have, why do they need more?

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    Re: What constitutes an "Assault Weapon"?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Technically none of those things in the poll options. An assault weapon is a semi-automatic firearm(this includes revolver shotguns in some states) with certain cosmetic features that make the anti-2nd amendment crowd piss and **** their panties if you go by what the Brady says and any shotgun with a revolving cylinder in Diene Fienstiens proposed assault weapons ban.
    The poll was about where YOU would draw the line, not where politicians draw the line.

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    Re: What constitutes an "Assault Weapon"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    WMD, obviously.

    Tanks, fighters... if fully armed rather than de-mil'd, certainly some serious regulation is in order. Ditto stinger missles and mounted machine guns, artillery, mortars.

    Full auto-capable infantry rifles... grey area, up for discussion... but really, since it is a common infantry small-arm it probably should be covered under the 2A. Some regulation, maybe like Class III weapons but without the antiquated requirement.

    Semi-autos are common arms and should not be regulated any more than they already are, magazine size ban is not justifiable as it isn't going to have any significant effect on those RARE crimes committed with such weapons.
    Only semi-automatic fighters should be banned.
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    Re: What constitutes an "Assault Weapon"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    The thing that gripes me is that the number of prosecutions and convictions for felons attempting to buy illegally is really tiny... they're not even enforcing what laws they have, why do they need more?
    That's true, but I do have to wonder if that's because there are background checks, e.g. why try if it will only get you in trouble.
    Honestly, I really don't want convicted violent criminals to be able to buy a gun, BUT they can already do that on the black market quite easily.
    It's a very tricky issue.

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    Re: What constitutes an "Assault Weapon"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pr0metheus View Post
    The poll was about where YOU would draw the line, not where politicians draw the line.
    The thread title itself is "What constitutes an assault weapon". None of those things in the poll options legally constitute an assault weapons. As for where I would draw the line it would be nukes and other WMDs, I do not think even governments should be allowed to have those things.
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