View Poll Results: Your preffered distopia

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  • Brave new world

    10 58.82%
  • 1984

    6 35.29%
  • I can't decide

    1 5.88%
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Thread: "Brave new world" vs "1984"

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    Re: "Brave new world" vs "1984"

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Oh, yeah. As a literary work, it left something to be desired. As a generator of ideas, though, it was something of a landmark, even if obscure.

    That these two writers so often mentioned in the same breath both borrowed from the themes indicates its importance.
    Doing a bit of research (wikipedia), it seems "we" and "The Iron Heel" are considered the first major examples of the genre. And that while Huxley always denied the influence "we" had on his work, Orwell was pretty open about it.

    *if anyone is interested, here is a free and legal download for "the iron heel"

    http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1164

    "We" is easily accessible as an online doc on scribd, but I am not sure about it's legality and copyright status
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    Re: "Brave new world" vs "1984"

    Wait....don't they eat babies in Brave New World?

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    Re: "Brave new world" vs "1984"

    Between a totally meaningless existence in which you're at least free to do as you please, or a totally meaningless existence in which Big Brother controls everything... I'll take the former thanks.

    It seems to me modern society is evolving into a kind of blend between the two dystopias.
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    Re: "Brave new world" vs "1984"

    While 1984 may have a much more oppressive existence, the populace still retains their faculties. The lower castes in brave new world are mentally and physically retarded at birth to keep them compliant and not question their role in society. There is hope that a tyrannical government could be overthrown, but pre-natal brain damage is irreversible. I'd rather have the cognition to be able to suffer the dystopia rather than embrace it in ignorant bliss.

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    Re: "Brave new world" vs "1984"

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    Re: "Brave new world" vs "1984"

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaAdonis View Post
    Why is Brave New World a distopia? There's no war, no capitalism, everyone has a role to play in society and everyone is provided for. And there's no Victorian sexual oppression and sexual closed-mindedness.
    I think Brave New World shows how any utopia is really a distopia in disguise. No free will, everyone just does as they are told.

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    Re: "Brave new world" vs "1984"

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    I'd rather have the cognition to be able to suffer the dystopia rather than embrace it in ignorant bliss.
    Wow, you want to suffer full-scale? I'd rather smoke joint if. I am allowed to.

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    Re: "Brave new world" vs "1984"

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    I think Brave New World shows how any utopia is really a distopia in disguise. No free will, everyone just does as they are told.
    Not sure about that. Take for example some classical utopias - Plato's "State" and "The City Of The Sun" by Tomasso Campanella. They are not meant to be "free will"-free.

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    Re: "Brave new world" vs "1984"

    A choice between a round turd and a square turd. Ya' gotta' go with Brave New World.

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    Re: "Brave new world" vs "1984"

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Not sure about that. Take for example some classical utopias - Plato's "State" and "The City Of The Sun" by Tomasso Campanella. They are not meant to be "free will"-free.
    Hence why they qualify as distopia's in my book.

    The human experience isn't about everything being perfectly laid out in front of you and perfectly harmonious.

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