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    Should The Government Be In The Marriage Business?

    This shouldn't be viewed as a sign that you are for or against gay marriage, polygamy, etc. Only whether or not the government should be the arbiter in moral decisions involving who or what is to be considered a suitable partner(s)

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    Re: Should The Government Be In The Marriage Business?

    It can kindly mind it's own business.
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    Re: Should The Government Be In The Marriage Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    This shouldn't be viewed as a sign that you are for or against gay marriage, polygamy, etc. Only whether or not the government should be the arbiter in moral decisions involving who or what is to be considered a suitable partner(s)
    The man issue is what about children that are outcomes of these marriages. There will need to be primary caretakers for said children. I most certainly do not trust the government to take care of them. Irregardless of what type there need to be both male and female roll models for the children. Anything else is just tort law and legal procedures that will take some time to determine.
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    Re: Should The Government Be In The Marriage Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    This shouldn't be viewed as a sign that you are for or against gay marriage, polygamy, etc. Only whether or not the government should be the arbiter in moral decisions involving who or what is to be considered a suitable partner(s)
    If I'm married in California, why shouldn't I have my marriage recognized in Maine? The government being involved in marriage (and the numerous benefits that go with it) renders that question moot.

    Besides that, the problem is not whether government should be involved in marriage because of its judgment presiding over morality, but that it is presiding over morality at all. Remove that and you remove the problem.

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    Re: Should The Government Be In The Marriage Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It can kindly mind it's own business.
    And yet, ironically, if you tell tell the Federal government to go mind its own business in this case, you give 50 more governments the right to mind your personal business.

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    Should the Government be in the Marriage Business?

    Absolutely not. They should also not be 'ruling' over a citizens personal choices in life in regards to a lot of things. Unfortunately, Pandora's box has been opened and now it will be nigh impossible to un-bloat big brother government.
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    Re: Should The Government Be In The Marriage Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    The man issue is what about children that are outcomes of these marriages. There will need to be primary caretakers for said children. I most certainly do not trust the government to take care of them. Irregardless of what type there need to be both male and female roll models for the children. Anything else is just tort law and legal procedures that will take some time to determine.
    I too agree that the traditional family is the best model to have for raising children to be productive, successful, and happy. Well, after reading what you wrote again you said "role model". That being said, were you speaking on the traditional family or just "role models"?

    I absolutely agree that the government should be the last ones to take care of anything.

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    Re: Should The Government Be In The Marriage Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    If I'm married in California, why shouldn't I have my marriage recognized in Maine? The government being involved in marriage (and the numerous benefits that go with it) renders that question moot.

    Besides that, the problem is not whether government should be involved in marriage because of its judgment presiding over morality, but that it is presiding over morality at all. Remove that and you remove the problem.
    I don't care what level of government it is, it could be at any level with the guideline that you are merely registering your marriage like you would if you were setting up an LLC or the like.

    Well, now here's the thing, let's take your argument to the next level.


    the problem is not whether government should be involved in marriage because of its judgment presiding over morality, but that it is presiding over morality at all. Remove that and you remove the problem

    What are laws? Codified morals? No? Throw in a dash of Authority with a pinch of punishment, and there's your government.

    No presiding over morality no presiding at all.

    Judging from the first part of your post and your political leaning, I'm gonna guess that's not where you want to go with this...

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    Re: Should The Government Be In The Marriage Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    Should the Government be in the Marriage Business?

    Absolutely not. They should also not be 'ruling' over a citizens personal choices in life in regards to a lot of things. Unfortunately, Pandora's box has been opened and now it will be nigh impossible to un-bloat big brother government.
    I think putting the argument into the context I've presented would satisfy most on the Left and surely all but the social conservatives on the Right. They're a shrinking breed so, nigh might not be as far as think...

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    Re: Should The Government Be In The Marriage Business?

    There's no way they can back out now, not after making it taxably fortuitous to be married.

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